Re: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Edward H. Trager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, I would not bother testing Windows OSes prior to Windows 2000/XP. Why not? Windows 98 and ME are still in use today, and can work on more limited PCs, unlike 2000/XP which requires a newer PC. If you're targetting a population with less

[OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recently I found an unexpected Unicode moment buried in the documentation for Microsoft Visual Studio .NET. This was written by Bobby Schmidt in 2000. The name C sharp is really spelled as shown in my column's banner graphic: The capital letter C

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:56:52 +0100, Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From: Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recently I found an unexpected Unicode moment buried in the documentation for Microsoft Visual Studio .NET. This was written by Bobby Schmidt in 2000. The name C sharp is

Re: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Antoine Leca
Hi John, John Snow va escriure: I am speaking to a client regarding there website being translated in to a number of languages including Bengali, Urdu and Punjabi which I am told is not very well supported by Unicode. This is not true. These languages are supported by Unicode, since the

Re: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Antoine Leca
Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure: From: Edward H. Trager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, I would not bother testing Windows OSes prior to Windows 2000/XP. Why not? Since it does not even work on these, there is no point testing it on development-dead platforms either. Antoine

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Antoine Leca
Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure: The musical sharp sign, of course, is U+266F, making the correct spelling C. From TUS: These symbols are typically used for text decorations, but they may also be treated as normal text characters in applications such as typesetting chess books,

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
The file extension is '.cs', since including punctuation marks would cause problems on many systems. The correct spelling is with a sharp sign, not a number sign, as documented by Microsoft themselves in various places: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vcsharp/productinfo/faq/default.aspx quote:

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
To add to the confusion, the ECMA-334 standard writes in its reference PDF (page 27): This clause is informative. (...) The name C# is pronounced C Sharp. The name C# is written as the LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C (U+0043) followed by the NUMBER SIGN # (U+000D). End of

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Benjamin Peterson
So the name (or trademark?) is meant to be pronounced sharp (in English), visualized logographically with a sharp symbol, and entered as a hash (#) symbol which don't work within file extensions in so many tools. I don't think you understand... the '.c#' file extension to which you refer

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Jon Hanna
Quoting Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The file extension is '.cs', since including punctuation marks would cause problems on many systems. The correct spelling is with a sharp sign, not a number sign, as documented by Microsoft themselves in various places:

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Jon Hanna
This clause is informative. (...) The name C# is pronounced C Sharp. The name C# is written as the LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C (U+0043) followed by the NUMBER SIGN # (U+000D). End of informative text. Gotta love a language with a carriage return in it's name :) -- Jon

Re: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Frank Yung-Fong Tang
Be careful here, for Unicode support in the browser (at least Netscape/Mozilla) there are some code fork between 2000/XP and Win98/ME. Philippe Verdy wrote on 3/23/2004, 5:39 AM: From: Edward H. Trager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, I would not bother testing Windows OSes prior to Windows

RE: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Peter Constable
Scripts used by Urdu, Panjabi and Bengali are all supported in Unicode. Urdu can be written using naskh-style Arabic (supported on WinXP, Win2K...), but users strongly prefer nastaliq. The latter is supported by the Uniscribe shaping engine; MS has not yet shipped any nastaliq fonts, but some are

Re: [OT] C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Jon Hanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] This clause is informative. (...) The name C# is pronounced C Sharp. The name C# is written as the LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C (U+0043) followed by the NUMBER SIGN # (U+000D). End of informative text. Gotta love a language with a

Re: Novice question

2004-03-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: Peter Constable [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scripts used by Urdu, Panjabi and Bengali are all supported in Unicode. Urdu can be written using naskh-style Arabic (supported on WinXP, Win2K...), but users strongly prefer nastaliq. The latter is supported by the Uniscribe shaping engine; MS has not

New Translation

2004-03-23 Thread Magda Danish \(Unicode\)
A new Croatian translation of What is Unicode? has been posted. Check it out at http://www.unicode.org/standard/translations/croatian.html and many thanks to the translator: Stjepan Brbot. --- Magda Danish Administrative Director The Unicode Consortium

vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Is somebody already using a PUA assignment for vertical text direction controls? from http://www.unicode.org/faq/bidi.html#1 [...] the choice of vertical layout is usually treated as a formatting style; therefore, the Unicode Standard does not define default rendering behavior for vertical

Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 02:55 PM 3/23/2004, Thomas Kuehne wrote: Is somebody already using a PUA assignment for vertical text direction controls? from http://www.unicode.org/faq/bidi.html#1 [...] the choice of vertical layout is usually treated as a formatting style; therefore, the Unicode Standard does not define

Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Am Mittwoch 24 März 2004 00:09 schrieb Asmus Freytag: Is somebody already using a PUA assignment for vertical text direction controls? I think the idea was that these don't belong in plain text. Markup languages have had vertical layout controls forever. The problem arose at very resource

RE: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Mike Ayers
Title: RE: vertical direction control From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thomas Kuehne Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:09 PM For CJK, old European in-scripts and especially Egyptian hieroglyphs it would be good to have a common control set - otherwise

Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 06:09 PM 3/23/2004, Thomas Kuehne wrote: Am Mittwoch 24 März 2004 00:09 schrieb Asmus Freytag: Is somebody already using a PUA assignment for vertical text direction controls? I think the idea was that these don't belong in plain text. Markup languages have had vertical layout controls

Re: vertical direction control

2004-03-23 Thread Ernest Cline
I can't imagine a situation where this would matter for plain text. I suppose one could use the ECMA-48 / ISO 6429 SPD (Select Presentation Direction) control sequence, but that is hardly plain text, altho it isn't quite markup either.

Re: C-sharp

2004-03-23 Thread Doug Ewell
Stuart Brown sbrown at extenza dot com wrote: Pronouncing C? as D flat is musically correct, at least in the equal-tempered environment, I'm astonished at a Unicoder coming to this conclusion! C sharp is C sharp, and D flat is D flat. To conflate the two on the grounds of their auditory