Re: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-27 Thread Doug Ewell
Alain LaBont alb at sct1 dot gouv dot qc dot ca wrote: However IBM PCs did something else, and their groups are limited to 3 levels. and again: [Alain] There is no penalty, you can have as many groups as you want. Do not make a confusion with PC implementations which are limited to 3

RE: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-27 Thread Alain LaBonté
À 18:24 2004-07-26, Mike Ayers a écrit: In less pedantic terms: SNIP/ Oddly, that was the pedantic explanation I sought. [Alain] Am I supposed to find this nice? Any national group is group 1 by definition according to ISO/IEC 9995. Group 2 is a Latin supplementary group to access those

Re: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-27 Thread Alain LaBonté
À 02:38 2004-07-27, Doug Ewell a écrit: In what way are PC keyboards necessarily limited to 3 levels? I can easily construct a PC keyboard layout using MSKLC in which characters are assigned to Shift+AltGr keystrokes. In fact, the standard US-International keyboard comes like this. [Alain] I

Re[2]: Writing Tatar using the Latin script; new characters to encode?

2004-07-27 Thread Alexander Savenkov
I didn't expect this pointless discussion to get that far. Hopefully, this will be the end of it. 2004-07-19T02:39:47+03:00 Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conclusion: 1) The Republic of Tatarstan passed a law in 1999 and coming into force in 2001 establishing a Tatar Latin alphabet.

Re: Writing Tatar using the Latin script; new characters to encode?

2004-07-27 Thread Peter Kirk
On 27/07/2004 15:21, Alexander Savenkov wrote: ... I can't guess what is considered by many in Tatarstan. And I think you shouldn't be guessing too as it makes no difference in our case. If someone, in spite of the law, consider killing people to be ok, it's a matter of court. There is a law

Re: Writing Tatar using the Latin script; new characters to encode?

2004-07-27 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2004.07.27, 15:21, Alexander Savenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again, Peter, you're going off the topic. You're invited to prove your assumptions with facts or withdraw them. I was in Tatarstan in March 2000 (in Kazan and in Nabr. Cheln.) and most of the (scarce) public usage of the

Re: Writing Tatar using the Latin script; new characters to encode?

2004-07-27 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
What's all the fuss, then? Unicode exists to support what people use. Do people use Latin script for Tatar? Evidence indicates that they do. Should Unicode support it, then? Certainly. Does Unicode support it? Yes, Unicode supports the Latin script, with gobs of extensions. So what's the

Re: Writing Tatar using the Latin script; new characters to encode?

2004-07-27 Thread Eric Muller
Mark E. Shoulson wrote: Unicode exists to support what people use. Do people use Latin script for Tatar? Evidence indicates that they do. Should Unicode support it, then? Certainly. Does Unicode support it? Yes, Unicode supports the Latin script, with gobs of extensions. So what's the

Re: Writing Tatar using the Latin script; new characters to encode?

2004-07-27 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
Eric Muller wrote: Mark E. Shoulson wrote: Unicode exists to support what people use. Do people use Latin script for Tatar? Evidence indicates that they do. Should Unicode support it, then? Certainly. Does Unicode support it? Yes, Unicode supports the Latin script, with gobs of

Re: Writing Tatar using the Latin script; new characters to encode?

2004-07-27 Thread Peter Kirk
On 27/07/2004 18:21, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: What's all the fuss, then? Ivan the Terrible conquered (what is now) Tatarstan in 1552. Stalin imposed the Cyrillic alphabet in 1939. Do the current Russian authorities want the same reputation? That's why this is a big issue in Tatarstan. Barlq

Re: Writing Tatar using the Latin script; new characters to encode?

2004-07-27 Thread Peter Kirk
On 27/07/2004 18:29, Eric Muller wrote: Mark E. Shoulson wrote: Unicode exists to support what people use. Do people use Latin script for Tatar? Evidence indicates that they do. Should Unicode support it, then? Certainly. Does Unicode support it? Yes, Unicode supports the Latin script,

RE: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-27 Thread Mike Ayers
Title: RE: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows From: Alain LaBonté [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:59 AM À 18:24 2004-07-26, Mike Ayers a écrit: In less pedantic terms: SNIP/ Oddly, that was the pedantic explanation I sought. [Alain] Am

Public Review Issues Update - UTS #31 Draft

2004-07-27 Thread Rick McGowan
The Unicode Technical Committee has posted a new public review issue. Details are on the following web page: http://www.unicode.org/review/ Briefly the new issue is: 39 Draft Unicode Technical Standard #31 Identifier and Pattern Syntax An updated draft of UTS #31 Identifier and

Re: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-27 Thread Patrick Andries
Mike Ayers a crit: RE: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows [Alain] As I said in my previous mail, these definitions are not the best of definitions. The distinction is but intuitive, you have to see the diagrams where labeling makes the difference: SNIP/ I don't have