Re: Anything from the Symbol font to add along with W*dings?

2011-08-14 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
15.8.2011 0:47, Asmus Freytag wrote: Not all documents are HTML or CSS. The Numericana page that was cited argues for using Symbol font on web pages, and I showed a few errors in its argumentation in that respect. I also wrote: “However, it might be argued that the Symbol font has been used

Re: Sanskrit nasalized L

2011-08-14 Thread Shriramana Sharma
On 08/15/2011 01:48 AM, Richard Wordingham wrote: is strictly speaking *the* sequence recommended *across* Indic scripts for representation of Sanskrit clusters involving a nasal and non-nasal "semivowel". However, people working with Indic rendering in a major operating system support the c

Re: Anything from the Symbol font to add along with W*dings?

2011-08-14 Thread Doug Ewell
The whole point of so-called symbol fonts is to allow (non-Unicode) applications to display these symbols while acting as though they are displaying ordinary Latin-1 text. It would be counterproductive for makers of such fonts to include, as it were, a health warning that the font should not be

Re: Greek Characters Duplicated as Latin (was: Sanskrit nasalized L)

2011-08-14 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/8/14 Richard Wordingham : > On Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:25:11 -0700 > tulasi wrote: > >>    - Why did Unicode Inc copies some letters/symbols from Greek-script >>    irresponsibly and renamed as Latin-script? >>    - Why din't it (Unicode Inc) use same Greek letters/symbols? > > U+00B5 MICRO SIGN i

Re: Anything from the Symbol font to add along with W*dings?

2011-08-14 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 8/14/2011 12:51 PM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: 14.8.2011 17:51, Doug Ewell wrote: This sounds like Jukka expects browsers to analyze the glyph assigned in the font to the code position for 'a' and decline to display it if it doesn't look enough like an 'a' (rejecting, for example, Greek 'α'). I

Re: Greek Characters Duplicated as Latin

2011-08-14 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 8/14/2011 1:39 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote: U+00B5 MICRO SIGN is an ISO-8859-1 character, and was therefore included as U+00B5. It normally precedes a Latin-script letter, and therefore it actually makes sense to treat it as a Latin-script character, and possibly give it a different shape i

Greek Characters Duplicated as Latin (was: Sanskrit nasalized L)

2011-08-14 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:25:11 -0700 tulasi wrote: >- Why did Unicode Inc copies some letters/symbols from Greek-script >irresponsibly and renamed as Latin-script? >- Why din't it (Unicode Inc) use same Greek letters/symbols? U+00B5 MICRO SIGN is an ISO-8859-1 character, and was therefo

Re: Sanskrit nasalized L

2011-08-14 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:59:30 +0530 Shriramana Sharma wrote: > On 08/14/2011 06:02 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:24:01 +0530 > > Shriramana Sharma wrote: > > > >> The point is that the sequence: > >> > >> > >> > >> is strictly speaking *the* sequence recommended *acros

Re: Anything from the Symbol font to add along with W*dings?

2011-08-14 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
14.8.2011 17:51, Doug Ewell wrote: This sounds like Jukka expects browsers to analyze the glyph assigned in the font to the code position for 'a' and decline to display it if it doesn't look enough like an 'a' (rejecting, for example, Greek 'α'). I'm not sure that is a reasonable expectation.

Re: Proposed new characters updated in Pipeline Table

2011-08-14 Thread Petr Tomasek
> Submitting a doc to UTC is a basic requirement. The issue also needs to make > it onto the agenda of a UTC meeting, and it helps to have a champion to make > sure that happens and that can be available to discuss the issue with the > UTC. These things are much easier if you are a member of the

Re: Fwd: Re: Proposed new characters updated in Pipeline Table

2011-08-14 Thread Petr Tomasek
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 08:01:28PM +0200, mmarx wrote: > part2 of Syriac people writing language A in script B > > > Nowadays its the other way round: > many members of the Syriac communities have > difficulties reading their "own" script, so both > the Orthodoxe and the Catholic church have > pr

Re: Anything from the Symbol font to add along with W*dings?

2011-08-14 Thread Doug Ewell
Jukka K. Korpela wrote: The reason why ever “worked” in HTML documents was the sloppy implementation of browsers—they applied a font without even checking whether the font actually contains the characters in content. So instead of deciding that a cannot possibly be rendered using the Symbol fon

Re: Proposed new characters updated in Pipeline Table

2011-08-14 Thread Doug Ewell
Philippe Verdy wrote: Isn't there also a new datafile with beta status, that lists the usage of characters shared by multiple scripts ? That's the "provisional data file called ScriptExtensions" that Peter mentioned. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, Colorado, USA | RFC 5645, 4645, UTN #14 www.ewel

Re: Sanskrit nasalized L

2011-08-14 Thread Shriramana Sharma
On 08/14/2011 06:02 PM, Richard Wordingham wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:24:01 +0530 Shriramana Sharma wrote: The point is that the sequence: is strictly speaking *the* sequence recommended *across* Indic scripts for representation of Sanskrit clusters involving a nasal and non-nasal "semiv

Re: Proposed new characters updated in Pipeline Table

2011-08-14 Thread Philippe Verdy
Isn't there also a new datafile with beta status, that lists the usage of characters shared by multiple scripts ? If so, it should also concern the Arabic-Syriac number sign (actually an abbreviated ligature of the Arabic word for year, with a subtended stroke that can span below several digits app

Re: Sanskrit nasalized L

2011-08-14 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:24:01 +0530 Shriramana Sharma wrote: > The point is that the sequence: > > > > is strictly speaking *the* sequence recommended *across* Indic > scripts for representation of Sanskrit clusters involving a nasal and > non-nasal "semivowel". Could you please quote me chapt