Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Andrew West
On 19 August 2015 at 12:36, Otto Stolz otto.st...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: You cannot suggest a new character just because it would be “nice to have”. Rather, you have to supply evidence that an additional character really needs to be encoded, e. g. because it is already widely used in print

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Otto Stolz
Hello Emma Haneys, Am 19.08.2015 um 01:20 schrieb Emma Haneys: i just wondering if i can suggest a new emoji . hoppefully you can respone to me . So far, you have only received derisive responses from the Unicode discussion list. This is because you have not understood how suggestions for

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Mark Davis ☕️
​I'd agree about reading and following http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Selection_Factors. As far as petitions go, we take them with a sizable grain of salt. See http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Selection_Factors_Requested. In the particular cases you cite, we had sufficient evidence about

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread William_J_G Overington
Otto Stolz wrote: You cannot suggest a new character just because it would be “nice to have”. Why not? The UNICORN FACE character has been encoded into regular Unicode following such a suggestion. I sent in a suggestion for an OKAPI to be encoded and was informed that my suggestion would be

Re: Why doesn't Ideographic (ID) in UAX#14 have half-width katakana?

2015-08-19 Thread Ken Whistler
I don't think that is the issue. U+FF9E/F are already lb=NS, which prevents line breaks before. The issue is instead loosening up the lb class for the halfwidth katakana syllables (from lb=AL to lb=ID), so that they *can* break the way the regular katakana syllables do. --Ken On 8/19/2015 9:21

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread William_J_G Overington
Mark Davis wrote: As far as petitions go, we take them with a sizable grain of salt. Who, exactly, precisely, is we please? William Overington 19 August 2015

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Marcel Schneider
On 19 Aug 2015 at 01:45, Emma Haneys wrote: i suggest one and only for fruit category . it is a durian . Emma, at small sizes, and especially in monochrome rendering, the glyph of a durian emoji would resemble closely to the glyph of an eventual lychee emoji. You should read also the

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread William_J_G Overington
Andrew West wrote: ..., and when she has 10,000 signatures make a formal request to the UTC. Where does the figure of 10,000 for the number of signatures come from please? That is a lot of people! What exactly are the rules? Does anybody really know these days! By comparison it needs ten

Re: Why doesn't Ideographic (ID) in UAX#14 have half-width katakana?

2015-08-19 Thread fantasai
On 05/04/2015 02:19 PM, Peter Edberg wrote: I have been checking with various groups at Apple. The consensus here is that we would like to see the linebreak value for halfwidth katakana changed to ID. Do we want all halfwidth kana changed to ID, or should there be some exception for the

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Marcel Schneider
On 19 Aug 2015 at 20:45, Andrew West wrote: I don't know, I think durian emoji would be quite distinctive, as shown in the examples on this page (I am rather taken with the sad durian which gets no hugs). What page do you refer to, the hyperlink has got lost, please. Marcel

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Marcel Schneider
On 19 Aug 2015 at 17:18, William_J_G Overington wrote: Suppose that someone suggests encoding LOCOMOTIVE MALLARD WITH TENDER LIVERIED AS PRESERVED SEEN IN A DIRECT SIDEWAYS VIEW FROM HER LEFT with a glyph five times as wide as high. Do not forget that to be encoded in Unicode, an emoji

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Andrew West
On 19 August 2015 at 19:45, Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 August 2015 at 19:22, Marcel Schneider charupd...@orange.fr wrote: On 19 Aug 2015 at 01:45, Emma Haneys miszhan...@gmail.com wrote: i suggest one and only for fruit category . it is a durian . Emma, at small sizes,

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Andrew West
On 19 August 2015 at 19:22, Marcel Schneider charupd...@orange.fr wrote: On 19 Aug 2015 at 01:45, Emma Haneys miszhan...@gmail.com wrote: i suggest one and only for fruit category . it is a durian . Emma, at small sizes, and especially in monochrome rendering, the glyph of a durian emoji

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Marcel Schneider
On 19 Aug 2015 at 17:18, William_J_G Overington wrote: I suggest to Emma the contacting of Unicode Inc. using the following form. http://www.unicode.org/reporting.html William is right. I strongly recommend you to first use the Contact form, as I did from the beginning on, long before

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Marcel Schneider
On 19 Aug 2015 at 20:48, Andrew West wrote: On 19 August 2015 at 19:45, Andrew West wrote: On 19 August 2015 at 19:22, Marcel Schneider wrote: On 19 Aug 2015 at 01:45, Emma Haneys wrote: i suggest one and only for fruit category . it is a durian . Emma, at small sizes, and

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Marcel Schneider
On 19 Aug 2015 at 20:48, Andrew West wrote: On 19 August 2015 at 19:45, Andrew West wrote: On 19 August 2015 at 19:22, Marcel Schneider wrote: On 19 Aug 2015 at 01:45, Emma Haneys wrote: i suggest one and only for fruit category . it is a durian . Emma, at small sizes, and

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Emma Haneys
thanx all for responding . and i 'ved sent the suggestion to the right place . thanx for info  On Aug 19, 2015 8:55 PM, William_J_G Overington wjgo_10...@btinternet.com wrote: Otto Stolz wrote: You cannot suggest a new character just because it would be “nice to have”. Why not? The

Re: Custom keyboard source samples (was: Re: Windows keyboard restrictions)

2015-08-19 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:51:26 +0200 (CEST) Marcel Schneider charupd...@orange.fr wrote: Since yesterday I know a very simple way to get the source code (in C) of any MSKLC layout. Is this legal? To me it smacks of reverse engineering, which is prohibited under the MSKLC licence. Richard.

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

2015-08-19 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
And is there an emoji for GRAIN OF SALT? (Actually, that could almost be useful... or even just a geometric CUBE...) ~mark On 08/19/2015 01:10 PM, William_J_G Overington wrote: Mark Davis wrote: As far as petitions go, we take them with a sizable grain of salt. Who, exactly, precisely,