Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Denis Jacquerye
On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 at 06:03 Marcel Schneider wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jan 2017 12:20:14 -0700, Doug Ewell wrote: > > > > Marcel Schneider wrote: > > > > >> I don't understand the relevance to vulgar fractions. > > > > > > Vulgar fractions represented using super- and subscript

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Wed, 04 Jan 2017 12:20:14 -0700, Doug Ewell wrote: > > Marcel Schneider wrote: > > >> I don't understand the relevance to vulgar fractions. > > > > Vulgar fractions represented using super- and subscript digits around > > the FRACTION SLASH U+2044 > > Don't do that. > > The fact that

Re: Soyombo empty letter frame

2017-01-04 Thread Anshuman Pandey
> On Jan 4, 2017, at 8:54 PM, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > >> On 01/04/2017 04:18 PM, eduardo marin wrote: >> The Soyombo proposal is beautiful, but it is missing a very important >> character in my opinion: http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2015/15004-soyombo.pdf >> >> Encoding an empty

Re: Soyombo empty letter frame

2017-01-04 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
On 01/04/2017 04:18 PM, eduardo marin wrote: The Soyombo proposal is beautiful, but it is missing a very important character in my opinion: http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2015/15004-soyombo.pdf Encoding an empty letter frame will allow for

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Doug Ewell
Marcel Schneider wrote: >> I don't understand the relevance to vulgar fractions. > > Vulgar fractions represented using super- and subscript digits around > the FRACTION SLASH U+2044 Don't do that. The fact that someone, even a Microsoft MVP, posted an article about this glyph hack does not

Re: IdnaTest.txt and RFC 5893

2017-01-04 Thread Markus Scherer
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:28 AM, Alastair Houghton < alast...@alastairs-place.net> wrote: > RFC 5893 seems pretty clear to me, and the problem really is that the test > vectors (which come from unicode.org) seem (to me) to be incorrect. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5893#section-2 says "*The

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Wed, 04 Jan 2017 12:20:14 -0700, Doug Ewell wrote: > > Marcel Schneider wrote: > > > This is because even complemented with UAXes and TRs, the Core > > Specifications cannot cover the whole practice. It seems that to stay > > inside reasonable limits, a significant number of usage cases have

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 13:43:50 +0100 Philippe Verdy wrote: > Note that in French the right single quote is normally not used at > all as a quotation mark, and when it appears between two letters it > is unambiguously an apostrophe. I think the letter apostrophe was > addede

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 15:13:36 +, Alastair Houghton wrote: > > > Given that the WG of the French standard keyboard is actually interested in > > getting > > encoded a new ordinal indicator (kind of 'ᵉ'), I feel the more urged to > > stay tuned, > > and to comment on subsequent e-mails, too. >

Soyombo empty letter frame

2017-01-04 Thread eduardo marin
The Soyombo proposal is beautiful, but it is missing a very important character in my opinion: http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2015/15004-soyombo.pdf Encoding an empty letter frame will allow for its proper description in plain text (as it is clear in the proposal itself), it could be used as an

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Doug Ewell
Marcel Schneider wrote: > This is because even complemented with UAXes and TRs, the Core > Specifications cannot cover the whole practice. It seems that to stay > inside reasonable limits, a significant number of usage cases have > been left out, e.g. the mentioned use of plain text for styled

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Alastair Houghton
On 4 Jan 2017, at 14:20, Marcel Schneider wrote: > As a result of prior discussions, we know that other list participants do use > e.g. > superscript characters in a more extensive way. > > I think there are two levels of action: > > (1) to encode new preformatted

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 00:36:38 -0500, Asmus Freytag wrote: > > On 1/3/2017 4:24 PM, Marcel Schneider wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 09:31:42 +0100, Christoph Päper wrote: > > > >>> Among the possibilities, you include Unicode subscripts. > >> Just for the sake of completeness. > > This tends to

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Philippe Verdy
Linguistically, it is an apostrophe, even if it's represented by a single quote (same as in French), because the "letter apostrophe" is not used (that letter apostrohpe was encoded in Unicode very late and there's no desire to change the mappings in French or Scottish). If you think it is a

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread John W Kennedy
No it isn’t. It isn’t an apostrophe; it’s a left single quote, although some modern printers mistakenly suppose it to be an apostrophe, and substitute one. And it isn’t an elision; it’s meant as a substitute glyph for a superscript c. (I confess that, not being from Scotland, I thought it to be

Re: IdnaTest.txt and RFC 5893

2017-01-04 Thread Alastair Houghton
On 4 Jan 2017, at 08:12, Martin J. Dürst wrote: > > Hello Alastair, > > On 2016/12/06 20:51, Alastair Houghton wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I must be missing something; in IdnaTest.txt, in the BIDI TESTS section, >> there are examples like (line 74) > > Can you tell us

Re: Superscript and Subscript Characters in General Use

2017-01-04 Thread Philippe Verdy
This is the traditional use of the apostrophe to be used to marc an elision at end of words. Nothing new. 2017-01-04 6:36 GMT+01:00 John W Kennedy : > > > On Jan 3, 2017, at 10:20 PM, Asmus Freytag wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2017 4:24 PM, Marcel

Re: IdnaTest.txt and RFC 5893

2017-01-04 Thread Martin J. Dürst
Hello Alastair, On 2016/12/06 20:51, Alastair Houghton wrote: Hi all, I must be missing something; in IdnaTest.txt, in the BIDI TESTS section, there are examples like (line 74) Can you tell us where you got IdnaTest.txt from? B;0à.\u05D0; ; xn--0-sfa.xn--4db #