Re: Encoding italic

2019-01-28 Thread Phake Nick via Unicode
2019-1-25 13:46, Garth Wallace via Unicode wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 1:27 AM James Kass via Unicode < > unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > >> >> Nobody has really addressed Andrew West's suggestion about using the tag >> characters. >> >> It seems conformant, unobtrusive, requiring no

Re: Encoding italic

2019-01-28 Thread Phake Nick via Unicode
Gmail can do *Märchen* although I am not too sure about how they transmit such formatting and not sure about how interoperatable are they. 在 2019年1月22日週二 14:43,Adam Borowski via Unicode 寫道: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 12:29:42AM -0800, David Starner via Unicode wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread James Tauber via Unicode
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 10:58 PM James Kass via Unicode wrote: > > On 2019-01-29 1:55 AM, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: > > I guess "Suck it up and deal with it." And that may indeed be the > answer. > > It would certainly make for shorter and simpler FAQ pages, anyway. > Except people

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread James Kass via Unicode
On 2019-01-29 1:55 AM, Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode wrote: I guess "Suck it up and deal with it."  And that may indeed be the answer. It would certainly make for shorter and simpler FAQ pages, anyway.

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode
On 1/28/19 3:58 PM, Richard Wordingham via Unicode wrote: Interestingly, bringing this word breaker into line with TUS in the UK may well be in breach of the Equality Act 2010. Richard. OK, I've got to ask: how would that be?  How would this impinge on anyone's equality on the basis of "age,

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode
On 1/28/19 2:31 AM, Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode wrote: But the question is how important those are in daily life. I'm not sure why the double-click selection behavior is so much more of a problem for Ancient Greek users than it is for the somewhat larger community of English users. Word

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode
On 1/27/19 4:30 PM, Philippe Verdy via Unicode wrote: For Volapük, it looks much more like U+02BE (right half ring modifier letter) than like U+02BC (apostrophe "modifier" letter). according to the PDF on https://archive.org/details/cu31924027111453/page/n12 No, I don't think it's 02BE

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:31:40 +0100 Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode wrote: > But the question is how important those are in daily life. I'm not > sure why the double-click selection behavior is so much more of a > problem for Ancient Greek users than it is for the somewhat larger > community of English

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 03:48:52 + James Kass via Unicode wrote: > It’s been said that the text segmentation rules seem over-complicated > and are probably non-trivial to implement properly.  I tried your > suggestion of WORD JOINER U+2060 after tau ( γένοιτ⁠’ ἄν ), but it > only added yet

Re: Unihan variants information

2019-01-28 Thread via Unicode
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Re: Unihan variants information

2019-01-28 Thread Doug Ewell via Unicode
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Unihan variants information

2019-01-28 Thread via Unicode
I've developped an open-source, multi-platform desktop application called Unicode Plus , which is a set of utilities related to Unicode, Unihan and emoji. The basic Unihan-related utilities are almost completed, and now I would like to add more

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Kalvesmaki, Joel via Unicode
Yes, we use U+2019 in either case. We might do something different if we ever run across a case where the two different types are justifiably adjacent, but that would be a rare case indeed. jk From: James Tauber Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 10:27:23 AM To:

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread James Tauber via Unicode
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 10:21 AM Kalvesmaki, Joel wrote: > In publishing critical editions of ancient/medieval Greek texts, I > regularly deals with editions that mix elision and closing single-quotation > marks. > You have my sympathies :-) But you use U+2019 for both, right? (just checking

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Kalvesmaki, Joel via Unicode
In publishing critical editions of ancient/medieval Greek texts, I regularly deals with editions that mix elision and closing single-quotation marks. That is, I cannot assume without context that an instance of U+2019 represents either an ancient/medieval elision mark or modern editorial

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Tom Gewecke via Unicode
> On Jan 28, 2019, at 1:51 AM, James Tauber via Unicode > wrote: > > when I'm entering U+2019 in a Greek context (via option-n) the keyboard is > fully aware I'm in that Greek context. Could you explain what you mean by the keyboard being “aware” of the Greek context?

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Michael Everson via Unicode
The hell I do, Julian. http://evertype.com/polynesian.html > On 27 Jan 2019, at 21:00, Julian Bradfield via Unicode > wrote: > > You have a very low opinion of Polynesian users.

Re: Encoding italic

2019-01-28 Thread Kent Karlsson via Unicode
Den 2019-01-28 02:53, skrev "James Kass via Unicode" : > plain-text and are uncomfortable using the math alphanumerics for this, > although the math alphanumerics seem well qualified for the purpose.  It "works" basically only for English (note that any diacritics would be placed suitable for

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread James Tauber via Unicode
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:54 AM James Kass via Unicode wrote: > at the keyboard driver level. It's a presumption that Greek classicists > are already specifying fonts and using dedicated keyboard drivers. > Based on the description provided by James Tauber, it should be > relatively simple to

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread James Tauber via Unicode
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 3:38 AM Mark Davis ☕️ wrote: > So does modern Greek use ’ for in trailing environments where people > wouldn't expect it to be included in word selection? > > Unfortunately, I can't speak for Modern Greek at all. James

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode
That is a fair point; if you could get everyone to use keyboards that inserted such a character, and also get people with current data (eg Thesaurus Linguae Graecae to process their text), then it would behave as expected. Mark On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 8:55 AM James Kass via Unicode wrote: > >

Re: Ancient Greek apostrophe marking elision

2019-01-28 Thread Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode
It would certainly be possible (and relatively simple) to change ’ into a word character for languages that don't use ’ for any other purpose. And if no languages using a particular script use ’ for another purpose, then it is particularly easy. (If you depend on language tagging, then any

Re: Encoding italic

2019-01-28 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
So you used "bold I.e, you converted from ASCII to tag characters the full HTML sequences "" and "", including the HTML element name. I see little interest for that approach. Additionally this means that U+E003C is the tag identifier and its scope does not end for the rest of the text (the HTML