Word uses sort orders provided by the system, so if it is not there, you
wouldn't be able to use it.
Same with additional language IDs - the system defines a set of
languages which Word is using.
Windows XP was shipped well before Unicode 4.0 came out, and Word2003
was shipped just after Unicode
If you are on the Windows platform, look at mlang.dll, and at the
IMultiLanguage2 and IMultiLanguage3 APIs, which provide this service. As
others have noted you will get false detections with too little or
ambiguous data, but you may be quite surprised at just how accurate this
detection is
Title: RE: MS Windows and Unicode 4.0 ?
A few corrections to your version of history below +++
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager,
Microsoft Word, Publisher, OneNote
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Philippe
Did you solve your problem? I opened both of these documents into IE,
clicked the Edit in Microsoft Word button for each, and they imported
correctly, with the Japanese displaying fine.
In the first test file, the last letter of your name at the bottom is
not correctly encoded in UTF-8 so it
u
can use ExtB fonts, such as the one in the Office XP Proofing
Tools.
Chris
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PratleyCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: CJK
question
Chris Pratley wrote, Win2000 can be made to support
Ext B characters
Win2000 can be made to
support ExtB characters. Download the support package at:
http://www.microsoft.com/china/windows2000/downloads/18030.asp
Office2000 does NOT support Ext B or any Unicode characters above
plane 0, but OfficeXP does.
The Proofing Tools for Office2000 naturally do not
If you put the bytes 00 and 41 in the file in that order, and expect
LATIN CAPTIAL LETTER A, then that is assuming a text file encoding of
UCS-2/UTF-16, and a byte order of MSB first, LSB second. Word calls that
encoding Unicode (big-endian). You can use Word2000 or Word2002 to
open that file
You should always set as much info correctly in the font as you can.
What you are seeing are the results of some workarounds we had to
implement to handle poorly made fonts.
Chris
MS Word
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From: Raymond Mercier [mailto:[EMAIL
need your help!
Thanks in advance,
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
Microsoft Word
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At 21:47 13/03/02 -0800, Chris Pratley wrote:
If you're trying to offer users something
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At 17:34 11/03/02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 03/11/2002 12:58:16 AM Chris Pratley wrote:
While it is true that in terms of absolute numbers most apps do not
yet
support UTF-16
Durdin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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At 08:20 PM 9/03/2002 +0300, Vladimir Ivanov wrote:
Should we wait for Keyman
for WM_UNICHAR
will have been added to other apps in the Office suite. (Chris Pratley,
can you comment on that?)
- Peter
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7500 W. Camp Wisdom Rd., Dallas, TX
A correction on Murray's comment: Note that Word2002 handles all of
these types of line breaks (CRLF, LF, CR, and PS) and roundtrips them so
that your LF-only text file remains LF after editing.
I have to agree that Word is not in the class of system default
editors
Chris
Group Program Manager
Perhaps that was true of NT4. On WindowsXP NTFS uses UTF-16 - it handles
Extension B filenames just fine.
Chris
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From: John Cowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 19, 2002 5:04 AM
To: David Hopwood
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Even better, use Word2002 and get all that, plus the ability to *edit*
the file and then save it back in any encoding, controlling CRLF/LF/CR
or whatever...
Actually, this problem of remembering encoding is not specific to
notepad - it happens for any text editor. The issue is that often the
Microsoft applications use both of these to try to determine if a font
is likely to support a certain range. Some fonts do not properly set
those values but most do, especially common ones.
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
Microsoft Office
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The Office system is more like a form of B, maybe B+. When looking for substitute
fonts, we actually try to match by font style (Sans serif, etc.). Frankly this is more
than enough for what is really a fallback mechanism.
FWIW, A sounds nice and I can imagine some niche cases where one might
Um, best to check the license agreement in Project. Sorry, I have little
to do with them.
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From: Tex Texin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: Chris Pratley
Cc: Michael (michka) Kaplan; Unicoders; NE
is far
more expensive than typical fonts)
Thanks,
Chris
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Subject: RE: microsoft font link
The font
as fast or faster than non-Unicode processing.
Chris Pratley
Grpoup Program Manager
Microsoft Word
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From: Murray Sargent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: August 1, 2001 9:13 AM
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The font Arial Unicode MS is not free for download. You must be a
licensed user of an Office Family product from the 2000 or XP
generation. If you have Office2000 or OfficeXp, Arial Unicode MS comes
on the CD of the product. If you have Publisher2000, you can go to
http://office.microsoft.com and
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From: Seuk Soo Sung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: July 16, 2001 6:04 AM
To: Chris Pratley; Jungshik Shin
Cc: Unicode Mailing List
Subject: RE: Wordprocessors in Korean
First of all, sorry for long mail. If you are not interesting Korean
Wordprocessor, please stop here
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Sent: July 16, 2001 7:30 PM
To: Chris Pratley
Cc: Seuk Soo Sung; Unicode Mailing List
Subject: Cicero and TSF(was RE: Wordprocessors in Korean)
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Chris Pratley wrote:
From: Seuk Soo Sung [mailto:[EMAIL
not really understand the complexities of
the arguments involved since they seem mainly philosophical and very
passionate.
BTW, do you have any details on what you described as limitations for
Word in Korean word processing?
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
Microsoft Word
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for the last 6
years, I know how much Word has improved in that area, so I am sure that
at least some of the complaints have been addressed.
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
Microsoft Word
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.
(and sometimes earlier, often to their and others' significant detriment
:-))
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
Microsoft Word
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or SP2 release of Office2000. If you have that and
are still seeing the problem, then the problem did not get fixed. If you
have just the initial release version, try installing SR1.
Word2002 (from OfficeXP) handles surrogates correctly. Word2002 also
handles Alt-x directly in the document.
Chris
port for "surrogates", display, editing, etc. What's not to like? :)
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
Microsoft Word
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Subject: RE: Unicode market acceptan
This font looks like a classic latin-1 hack font. The upper and lowercase
Latin glyphs have been switched for Burmese.
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
Microsoft Word
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The Office team does not make the solution we developed internally for our
own applications available publicly for several reasons:
1. It takes time to extract the code
2. Its priority is always low since it does not help Office
3. The application teams are not in the business of Win32 developer
Surrogate support was not turned on by default in Win2000 because the
Windows team was waiting for the standard to be finalized. It was also added
late, so to reduce the potential impact they had it off - a safe bet since
the standard was still 1+ years from completion.
Chris
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past the ends of both words, then backing up. I never would have guessed the
behavior, but it seems to work. Thanks!
Mark
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Subject: RE: [OT] Word select in Microsoft products
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Sent: October 3, 2000 1:52 PM
To: Unicode List
Subject: RE: lag time in Unicode implementations in OS, etc?
Chris Pratley wrote:
Surrogate support was not turned on by default in Win2000 because the
Windows team was waiting
.
Word handles the spacing between words so I just type.
Sorry
I can’t help you with the other products Mark. Maybe someone else knows…
Chris
Pratley
Group
Program Manager
Microsoft
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e enough time to get the Thai/Indic in the global
release, that's all. That's why Peter's comparison works the way it does
now, and won't work that way next year when Word10 is available.
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
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then save as any encoding by doing File/Save
As/Encoded text.
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
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From: viswanathan
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2000 10:26 PM
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Hello
I assume there is a typo below,
and that you mean when you type ma2, you want only choices that are ma2, and
not ma3, mashang, etc.
When I use MS Pinyin 2.0 IME on
Win2000, I get exactly 4 candidates when I input ma2:
(U+9ebb) (U+5417) (U+87c6)
(U+8534). Each of these is pronounced
You need to install NT4 SP5 or later to fix this.
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From: Dara Becker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 2:45 PM
To: Unicode List
Subject: Arial Unicode MS
Does anybody else have problems with Arial Unicode MS
Arial Unicode MS uses CJK glyphs from various cultural
styles, so if you need a pure font, you would be better off using a font that
specifically targets a particular locale e.g. MingliU for Traditional Chinese,
and Simsun for Simplified Chinese. Both of these come with Office2000.
This makes sense if you realize that characters are just bytes, and you can
play around with the interpretation of the bytes as much as you like until
one interpretation works. Data in Unicode, however, breaks the (rough) rule
that bytes can be interpreted as any codepage. (note that this is a
This makes sense if you realize that characters are just bytes, and you can
play around with the interpretation of the bytes as much as you like until
one interpretation works. Data in Unicode, however, breaks the (rough) rule
that bytes can be interpreted as any codepage. (note that this is a
,
etc.). There is almost no documentation in English on how to use IMEs that I
know of. The Office2000 Proofing Tools manual has one page for each
language, but comprehensive documentation in English does not exist that I
know of (I would love to be proven wrong).
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
applet, then in Word got
to Tools/Options/General/English Word 6.0/95 documents contain,
and select Chinese. In PowerPoint, go to Tools/Options/Asian/Convert
font-associated text)
Chris
Pratley
Group
Program Manager
Microsoft
Word
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From: Magda Danish (Unicode
Small note: All language flavours of Win2000 include the Indic support and
input methods Chris describes, not just the one shipped in India.
Chris Pratley
Group Program Manager
Microsoft Word
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