fyi - Microsoft withdraws core fonts for the web. Web fonts (also known
as embedded OpenType fonts or dynamic fonts) is still supported by Microsoft
IE.
Regards,
- Michael
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:35:34 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Microsoft withdraws web fonts
see
James Kass wrote:
The best way to render a Devanagari page is with Unicode encoding
and smart font technology. With an up-to-date version of the
Uniscribe software installed, Devanagari can be properly displayed
even on Win 9x, as long as the browser uses the Uniscribe engine.
You need to
better make sure that you build the fonts for Win9x yourself. Then again,
even that may not work... ;-)
Regards,
- Michael
-Original Message-
From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:11 PM
To: Michael Jansson
Cc: Unicode List
Subject
Michael Jansson
a particular language (well, there is much more to it than that, but
you get the idea). For example, Latha does not contain Latin characters.
Still, you can use it to write English text.
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Michael Jansson
their Win9x
machines with Uniscribe is plain unethical. It's not tested on Win9x. There
are known issues when doing that. Telling people to download and install
fonts, that may or may not have been tested on all platforms, is equally
unethical. period.
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Michael Jansson
Update. Also, I would not recommend relying on that all Win9x users have
neither Uniscribe nor any particular font (or versions thereof).
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Michael Jansson
16, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Michael Jansson; 'Michael (michka) Kaplan'
Cc: Unicode List
Subject: Re: Unicode Devanagari Font in Mozilla
Michael Jansson mjan at em2 dash solutions dot com wrote:
Giving advice to people that they should go ahead and update their
Win9x machines with Uniscribe
Otto Stolz wrote:
You don't need web fonts; it is enough to have installed fonts for the
languages you can read -- which you normally would have,
anyway. E. g.,
(Sigh) Your average Internet user may not have a suitable font, may not
know how to install a font, may not be allowed to
Alan Wood wrote:
I couldn't agree more. And I wonder how many people want to be
able to read Web pages in a particular language but don't also
want to write e-mails and word processor documents in that
language. Web fonts are not a lot of use when you want to
produce documents.
No, I
to bother to
respond...
I'm stunned by people low expectations on what you can do in terms of fonts
and languages on the web.
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Michael Jansson
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Michael Jansson
that it may be hard to do so
;-).
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Michael Jansson
Marco Cimarosti wrote:
Take Polynesian languages for example, e.g. Hawaiian. [...]
Curiously, Hawaiian could be supported by the Baltic Latin subset
(http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html#ISO-8859-4 --
although I guess
they'd have some problems interpreting menus in Estonian or
is possible (or else
we'll never see an
Indic OCR), but so far haven't succeeded doing it myself.
It's not impossible, so keep going...
_ Marco
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Michael Jansson
Marco Cimarosti wrote:
I am not proposing using PUA or introducing new code points
to do this. You would still have valid Unicode characters
in the page (of sorts). The characters would be ordered
visually though,
That is what I understood. And I still *totally* disagree.
Logical
Michael Everson wrote:
There was a Hawai'ian version of Netscape 4. Anyway all Hawai'ians
have to do is make their web pages with UTF-8 using the characters
they need.
No they can't. Anyone using a modern browser on a modern OS would *still*
not be able to read Hawaiians text, because they
Jansson
Michael Jansson says:
There are no technical reasons for why css/html4/xhtml can
not produce
every bit as high quality
as any other page layout format.
Sadly this is currently far from the case. HTML/CSS even
including CSS3
is far from a professional document publishing
despite the lack of support
from the OS. Unfortunately, there are no Unicode savvy browsers on the
market.
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Michael Jansson
-Original Message-
From: Stefan Persson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:15 AM
To: Michael Jansson; 'David
not support text, at least
not when using a font of my choice.
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Michael Jansson
-Original Message-
From: Stefan Persson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:37 AM
To: Michael Jansson; 'David Starner'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can
What I meant to write before was ... CSS 2/@font-face ... and not ... CSS
2/@font-family Sorry about the typo.
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Michael Jansson
-Original Message-
From: Michael Jansson
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:43 AM
To: 'Stefan Persson'; 'David Starner'; [EMAIL
web
browsers through the years, sometimes with no other reward than peoples
appreciation. I only wish that time were spent on supporting text, and not
just flashy content.
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Michael Jansson
See below.
-Original Message-
From: David Starner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 11:50 PM
To: Michael Jansson; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Can browsers show text? I don't think so!
This is text. Changing fonts is just flash. And frankly, no
modern
Hi,
Writing a plugin would not be enough. There are quite a few issues
to deal with when rendering Indian text in a browser without
Unicode support (as you all know). I assume that you are looking for
a solution that works for more than just one browser on one platform!?
Some browser may
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