Re: Phoenician (was, Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?; was, Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew; was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-20 Thread Ted Hopp
On Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:11 PM, John Jenkins wrote: You go down to your local cybercafe to read your email from your grandmother telling you all about your nephew's bar-mitzvah. Unfortunately, your local cybercafe has no modern Hebrew (or Yiddish) installed, but they *do* have a Phonecian

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-17 Thread E. Keown
Elaine Keown Tucson Hi, What is a 'diascript' ? --Elaine __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-17 Thread jcowan
Michael Everson scripsit: What is a 'diascript' ? Dean's attempt to invent a new term for the gigantic bucket he thinks Hebrew is. Not new, not invented; as I said, already in use in French, German, and Dutch. By analogy with diaphoneme, presumably; an abstract representation which can

RE: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-15 Thread Jony Rosenne
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark E. Shoulson Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:47 PM To: Dean Snyder Cc: Unicode List Subject: Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician) Dean Snyder wrote

RE: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-15 Thread jameskass
Jony Rosenne wrote, There is another option - to postpone the decision. If the question is controversial, and consent impossible to achieve, this is often the best choice. If it is impossible to achieve a consensus, it's disingenous to suggest that a decision be postponed until an agreement

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-15 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jony Rosenne wrote, There is another option - to postpone the decision. If the question is controversial, and consent impossible to achieve, this is often the best choice. If it is impossible to achieve a consensus, it's disingenous to suggest that a decision be

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-15 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
Michael Everson wrote: One last try. At 16:21 -0400 2004-05-14, Dean Snyder wrote: Michael Everson wrote at 7:29 PM on Thursday, May 13, 2004: At 11:44 -0400 2004-05-13, Dean Snyder wrote: It's your dogmatic assertion that Phoenician/Palaeo-Hebrew is a different script (in the ENCODING sense of

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-14 Thread Dean Snyder
Michael Everson wrote at 7:29 PM on Thursday, May 13, 2004: At 11:44 -0400 2004-05-13, Dean Snyder wrote: occur side by side FOR THE SAME TEXTS IN THE SAME LANGUAGE. In DIFFERENT SCRIPTS. It's your dogmatic assertion that Phoenician/Palaeo-Hebrew is a different script (in the ENCODING sense of

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-14 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
Dean Snyder wrote: My question is, do you really care what ANYBODY says about encoding or not encoding Phoenician, or has your mind been made up for 10 years and nothing can change it now? But they *DID* listen to what people had to say about it. Some said one thing, some said the other. A

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Everson
At 16:21 -0400 2004-05-14, Dean Snyder wrote: [repetition deleted] Pete oun maaje mmof esotm maref sotm. -- Gospel of Thomas 21. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-14 Thread Kenneth Whistler
At 16:21 -0400 2004-05-14, Dean Snyder wrote: [repetition deleted] Pete oun maaje mmof esotm maref sotm. -- Gospel of Thomas 21. Exegesis for the rest of us: Thomas 21, Verse 10. Nag Hammadi Coptic text original *transliterated* into Latin script. Translated usually as: He who has

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Everson
At 16:42 -0700 2004-05-14, Kenneth Whistler wrote: Pete oun maaje mmof esotm maref sotm. -- Gospel of Thomas 21. Exegesis for the rest of us: Thomas 21, Verse 10. Nag Hammadi Coptic text original *transliterated* into Latin script. Translated usually as: He who has ears to hear, let him

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Everson
One last try. At 16:21 -0400 2004-05-14, Dean Snyder wrote: Michael Everson wrote at 7:29 PM on Thursday, May 13, 2004: At 11:44 -0400 2004-05-13, Dean Snyder wrote: occur side by side FOR THE SAME TEXTS IN THE SAME LANGUAGE. In DIFFERENT SCRIPTS. It's your dogmatic assertion that

Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-13 Thread Dean Snyder
Michael Everson wrote at 3:08 AM on Thursday, May 13, 2004: At 21:34 -0400 2004-05-12, John Cowan wrote: Remember that Phoenician in this context includes Palaeo-Hebrew, an we *have* seen evidence that this script is mixed with Square in the same text, though not in the same word. Remember that

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-13 Thread Lisa Moore
Dean Snyder wrote: Is there time to get an Archaic Greek proposal on the June UTC agenda? I can write this up fairly quickly. Yes, there is time. All script proposals need to be in a week before the UTC, by June 7. For something that is likely to be controversial, I would recommend two weeks

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-13 Thread Dean Snyder
Dean Snyder wrote at 11:44 AM on Thursday, May 13, 2004: Do you want to interfile Fraktur and Roman German? Of course, what I meant to say was, Do you not want Fraktur and Roman German interfiled? Respectfully, Dean A. Snyder Assistant Research Scholar Manager, Digital Hammurabi Project

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-13 Thread Michael Everson
At 10:16 -0700 2004-05-13, Lisa Moore wrote: Is there time to get an Archaic Greek proposal on the June UTC agenda? There might be time, but there is no reason to make such a proposal. Archaic Greek is already handled by Greek. It even includes archaic letters like QOPPA. There are some letters

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-13 Thread Michael Everson
At 11:44 -0400 2004-05-13, Dean Snyder wrote: Michael Everson wrote at 3:08 AM on Thursday, May 13, 2004: At 21:34 -0400 2004-05-12, John Cowan wrote: Remember that Phoenician in this context includes Palaeo-Hebrew, an we *have* seen evidence that this script is mixed with Square in the same

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-13 Thread Dean Snyder
Michael Everson wrote at 7:01 PM on Thursday, May 13, 2004: There might be time, but there is no reason to make such a proposal. Archaic Greek is already handled by Greek. It even includes archaic letters like QOPPA. There are some letters missing, like HETA, but those can be added in due

Re: Archaic-Greek/Palaeo-Hebrew (was, interleaved ordering; was, Phoenician)

2004-05-13 Thread E. Keown
Elaine Keown Tucson Hi, There might be time, but there is no reason to make such a proposal. Archaic Greek is already handled by Greek. It even includes archaic letters like QOPPA. There are some letters missing, like HETA, but those can be added in due course. I