Re: Irish case folding

2000-07-11 Thread Séamas Ó Brógáin
Michael wrote: Maybe it's folk etymology, but I heard the critter was known as "the French animal" hence its name. Yes, believe it or not, the rat was once known in Ireland as the "luch Fhrancach" (French mouse); hence the modern name. Séamas Ó Brógáin

Re: Irish case folding

2000-07-11 Thread brendan_murray
Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I thought that the words are the same. Maybe it's folk etymology, but I > heard the critter was known as "the French animal" hence its name. I don't recall any reference to that in school (where the capitalization was emphasized to encourage good relat

Re: Irish case folding

2000-07-11 Thread Michael Everson
Ar 14:10 -0800 2000-07-10, scríobh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >One definitely has to be careful with case here, e.g. "Francach" >(Frenchman) is definitely not the same as a title-cased "francach" (rat) - >the potential for diplomatic difficulties is enormous :-) I thought that the words are the same. Ma

Re: Irish case folding

2000-07-10 Thread brendan_murray
Séamas Ó Brógáin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, those too, though not very many. There may even be some rare instances > of ambiguous words in this category (i.e. where there is a word beginning One definitely has to be careful with case here, e.g. "Francach" (Frenchman) is definitely not th

Re: Irish case folding

2000-07-10 Thread Séamas Ó Brógáin
Marco asked: But what for the case of "h"? Doesn't Irish have words starting by "h", foreign names maybe? Yes, those too, though not very many. There may even be some rare instances of ambiguous words in this category (i.e. where there is a word beginning with and an otherwise identi

RE: Irish case folding

2000-07-10 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
Sean O Seaghdha wrote: > Is this just curiosity or are you writing some case-shifting > algorithm? No, I wish! :-( It is just curiosity. I am writing some notes about i18n, and I am looking for examples of "the good old things you can say good-bye to if you're gonna write code that has to run

Re: Irish case folding

2000-07-10 Thread Sean O Seaghdha
Ar 10 Jul 2000, ag 6:04 scríobh [EMAIL PROTECTED] fán ábhar "Re: Irish case folding": [the pedantry of which Séamas spoke approaches] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> - Can these mutations only occur after a determinative, or can they also be >> at the beginning of a senten

Re: Irish case folding

2000-07-10 Thread brendan_murray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > - Can these mutations only occur after a determinative, or can they also be > at the beginning of a sentence? I don't believe they can occur at the beginning of a sentence. The most common construct occurs after "na" (meaning "of"); "Ambasáid na hÉireann" (Embassy of I

Re: Irish case folding

2000-07-10 Thread Séamas Ó Brógáin
Marco Cimarosti asked: Time ago, we discovered some complex behavior in the capitalization of Irish: some initial letters, called "mutations" never get capitalized ... I was wondering: Can these mutations only occur after a determinative, or can they also be at the begi

Irish case folding

2000-07-10 Thread Marco . Cimarosti
Time ago, we discovered some complex behavior in the capitalization of Irish: some initial letters, called "mutations" never get capitalized. (The example was "POBLACHT NA hIODÁILE", meaning "Republic of Italy", where the "h" has to be lowercase even if all the rest is uppercase). I was wonderi