Re: Polyglot keyboards (was: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use)

Very true, and this will likely not change. Even users of "ergonomic" layouts want to keep this ergonomy for their letters (an letter pairs). All that can be made reasonable is to extend existing layouts with minimal changes: basic letters, decimal digits, and basic punctuation must remain at the

Polyglot keyboards (was: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use)

Otto Stolz wrote: > Yes, there is somebody going there. E. g., the German standard > DIN 2137:2012-06 defines a “T2” layout which is meant > for all official, Latin-based orthographies worldwide, and > additionally for the Latin-based minority languages of Germany > and Austria. The layout is

Polyglot keyboards (was: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use)

Hello, am 2016-05-08 um 20:11 Uhr schrieb Don Osborn: Another thing about user needs is that the polyglot/pluriliterate user may prefer something that reflects that, as opposed to having multiple keyboards for languages whose character repertoires are much the same. From a national or regional

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

the user. So there was, > and always has been, a public education side to this that none of us in > position or interest to do so have been able to address. Please see also the capital left-hook N glyph issue Don documented at the very beginning of this thread: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

from shoveling leaf compost). Don --Original Message-- From: Doug Ewell Sender: Unicode To: unicode@unicode.org To: Don Osborn Subject: Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use Sent: May 8, 2016 2:31 PM Don Osborn wrote: > In the multilingual settings I'm most interes

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

Don Osborn wrote: In the multilingual settings I'm most interested in, the language requirements often overlap, sometimes considerably (thinking here of extended Latin alphabets). This is because in many languages use characters that are part of the African Reference Alphabet. So it is possible

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

Thanks Doug. You're right as far as that goes, but I'd suggest there's more to it. Languages (by which of course we mean their written forms) have requirements, and for cross-border languages, requirements may be defined differently by the different countries where they are spoken. And users

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

Don Osborn wrote: Concerning the keyboard side of the issue, there has been a lot of discussion about unified standards over the years, but what we end up with is maybe another case of "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from." There are a zillion keyboard

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

2016-05-08 16:19 GMT+02:00 Don Osborn : > The flexibility of touchpad keyboards in theory gets beyond the > limitations of the physical keyboards - has anyone tried adding a row to > say a QWERY layout, which includes additional characters, rather than > sweating the issues

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

Thanks all for the replies on this matter. Concerning the keyboard side of the issue, there has been a lot of discussion about unified standards over the years, but what we end up with is maybe another case of "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from." Within

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:27:02 -0400, Don Osborn wrote: > If the latter be the case, that would seem to have implications > regarding dissemination of information about Unicode. "If you > standardize it, they will adopt" certainly holds for industry and > well-informed user communities (such as in

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

Hm... I don't think that simply search-replacing of ascii characters for the characters the font uses them for will work, except on .txt files. Microsoft Word documents, HTML files, and any other non-plaintext files will almost certainly be corrupted by such a program, because the tags might

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

In addition to creating platform-specific keyboard layouts as Doug suggested, I would also like to point out that it is now also possible —and possibly even easier— to create web-based keyboard and input method engines that may allow a greater degree of cross-platform support, reducing

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

Hello Don, I agree with Doug that creating a good keyboard layout is a good thing to do. Among the people on this list, you probably have the best contacts, and can help create some test layouts and see how people react. Also, creating fonts that have the necessary coverage but are encoded

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

Don Osborn wrote: Substituting characters such that the key for an otherwise unused character yields a hooked letter or a tone-marked vowel may be seen as sufficient for their purposes and easier than switching to Unicode and sorting out a new keyboard system. The myth is that switching to

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

Don, Most African communities I work with within diaspora are using Unicode. Although 8 bit legacy content is still in use. Probably the most use I see of legacy encodings is among the Karen languages. Sgaw Karen uses seem to still be using 8-bit fonts. There is a psuedo-Unicode solution but

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

I was preparing the following feedback long before the obituary of Michael S. Kaplan. I stay mourning.   Since discussion restarted, am I allowed to send this today, instead of tomorrow? Initially it was planned for yesterday, the day when I found Doug Ewell’s and following messages,

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

Le 16/10/2015 02:22, Don Osborn a écrit : I was surprised to learn of continued reference to and presumably use of 8-bit fonts modified two decades ago for the extended Latin alphabets of Malian languages, and wondered if anyone has similar observations in other countries. Or if there have

Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:22:08 -0400 Don Osborn wrote: > I was surprised to learn of continued reference to and presumably use > of 8-bit fonts modified two decades ago for the extended Latin > alphabets of Malian languages, and wondered if anyone has similar > observations in

Re: Tirhuta (linked to: Re: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use)

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 09:20:13 +0100, Richard Wordingham wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:22:08 -0400 > Don Osborn wrote: > > > I was surprised to learn of continued reference to and presumably use > > of 8-bit fonts modified two decades ago for the extended Latin > > alphabets of Malian

Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use

I was surprised to learn of continued reference to and presumably use of 8-bit fonts modified two decades ago for the extended Latin alphabets of Malian languages, and wondered if anyone has similar observations in other countries. Or if there have been any recent studies of adoption of