2015-02-13 7:04 GMT+01:00 Christopher Vance cjsva...@gmail.com:
With ISO3166, there's almost always an objective answer to what is the
flag?. UA may be breaking up, but many of those opposed to the Kyiv
government would prefer not to be in UA anyway. Sometimes there's a dispute
as to which
I do not propose it as a language markup but only as visible icons
(independant of the language markup used in text), similar to RIS icons in
the Emoji set.
This is *not* the same usage. In other words, these icons may be rendered
with *translated* levels inside, or localized locally to the
Philippe may have overlooked the fact that this has been tried (years
ago) in the
Unicode Standard. See: language tags.
http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode7.0.0/ch23.pdf#G26419
The syntax for those even goes beyond just ISO 639-2/3 to incorporate
the full range of BCP 47 tags, in
On Feb 13, 2015 3:12 AM, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
This is completely a non-issue with the Unicode standard itself. There's
an ample enough space to use various designs that match character
properties as well as user expectations *without* breaking the character
identity itself.
This is just experience of visiting sites commonly using these flags to
represent (inappropriately) languages *visually*. And even if it is not the
best way to represent languages, this is what happens (Unicode cannot
interfer with the freedom of speech and the choice of authors if they
prefer
El feb 9, 2015, a las 1:21 PM, Markus Scherer markus@gmail.com escribió:
However, I would much prefer if everyone spent their considerable energy on
upgrading protocols (e.g., IETF RFCs for email subject lines) and lobby
relevant vendors (e.g., chat services social network
Another solution isalso to not extend the scope of use of RIS characters
(leave them as they are for ISO3166-1 based codes only), but defne a
separate set with Language Indicator Symbols (LIS) working the same way,
but based on ISO 639-2 or -3 (3-letter codes, accepting also the language
family
RIS could represent languages as well, using BCP47 principle, except that
they start by an ISO
3166 coide (as there's no territory, you'd normally use a 3166 code for
undetermined region, but there's no 3166 code that starts by an hyphen.
So to use a BCP47 language tag you could use the hyphen
With ISO3166, there's almost always an objective answer to what is the
flag?. UA may be breaking up, but many of those opposed to the Kyiv
government would prefer not to be in UA anyway. Sometimes there's a dispute
as to which group is running a country, like in SY at the moment, but I'm
guessing
Joan Montané joan at montane dot cat wrote:
As far as I see, my informal request for expanding current RIS design
hasn't a good response. I understand it. Flags are cause of disputes,
and it isn't an issue for Unicode encode them.
There are technical limitations as well. Because the mechanism
One area where this would be useful is for indicating national teams
in football (soccer), rugby and other sports where England, Scotland,
Wales and N. Ireland play separately internationally.
On 10 February 2015 at 12:10, Mark Davis ☕️ m...@macchiato.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:11
2015-02-10 17:16 GMT+01:00 Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org:
In order to make a system like this work with an arbitrary number of
symbols, a terminating symbol would have to be defined. Finding the
longest match between a string of symbols and a TLD wouldn't work;
someone might really want to
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Ken Whistler kenwhist...@att.net wrote:
for the full context, and for the current 26x26 letter matrix which is
the basis for the flag glyph implementations of regional indicator
code pairs on smartphones.
SC, SO, ST are already taken, but might I suggest
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Andrea Giammarchi
andrea.giammar...@gmail.com wrote:
if a cultural/language TLD is typed with Unicode RIS, then show the flag
for these culture/language:
This does not work. The Unicode RIS are defined to be used in pairs, with
semantics according to
Thanks for your replies,
As far as I see, my informal request for expanding current RIS design
hasn't a good response. I understand it. Flags are cause of disputes, and
it isn't an issue for Unicode encode them.
IMHO keept tied to 2-alpha codes is a poor choice for users. May be
industry
Thanks, that was somehow indeed my very first concern. Everyone could claim
an emoji, at that point.
Enough info for me so far, so thanks again.
Best Regards
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Markus Scherer markus@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Andrea Giammarchi
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Joan Montané j...@montane.cat wrote:
AFAIK, this is done in font side. Emoji flags are just ligatures, so a
font can provide a ligature for 4 RIS characters.
Technically true, but a font that violates the encoding standard would
cause large problems. Imagine a
Sorry, my reply was sended CC: to Unicode ML,
My apologies,
Joan Montané
2015-02-09 22:11 GMT+01:00 Joan Montané j...@montane.cat:
Hi all,
I am the one who made the request to tweemoji Github.
2015-02-09 20:16 GMT+01:00 Markus Scherer markus@gmail.com:
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:54
Joan Montané joan at montane dot cat wrote:
I don't request flag support for every flag in the world. I requested
flags for culture/language communities *with* an approved TLD (Top
Level Domain).
Incidentally, about a year and a half ago I discussed this with another
list member, on- and
And just another follow-up, to try to explain *why* the mechanism for
Regional Indicator Codes might be so closely tied to ISO 3166-1 alpha-2
code elements:
ISO 3166-1 codes are derived from code elements published by the United
Nations Statistics Division. This is the group that ultimately
To follow up on Doug Ewell's response, the mechanism currently
standardized in the Unicode Standard for regional indicator codes
has an interpretation tied to the two-letter codes of ISO 3166-1,
and *not* to TLD's. The two are not directly connected.
If anyone really wants to pursue getting a
Using flags to indicate particular languages on websites has plenty of
problems - languages need a better indicator.
Scripts could be indicated by a representative glyph.
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