Kent Karlsson wrote:
> Consider English. If I write "", that may well be a spell error.
Or even "Ŋŋŋŋ!", as Michael Everson wrote in WG2 N2306.
-Doug Ewell
Fullerton, California
> > No, with proper reordering (and "normal" display mode), the e-matra at
> > the beginning of the second word would appear to be last glyph of the
> > first "word". Similarly, for the second case, the e-matra glyph would
> > have come to the left of the pa. The fluent reader (ok, not me...)
> --- Kent Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > No fallback rendering is coming into picture with your explanation.
> >
> > Yes, there is. A character sequence (say)
> > is very unlikely to have a ligature, specially adapted (and fitting)
> > adjustment points, or similar. The ren
--- Kent Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > No fallback rendering is coming into picture with your explanation.
>
> Yes, there is. A character sequence (say)
> is very unlikely to have a ligature, specially adapted (and fitting)
> adjustment points, or similar. The rendering would i
--- Kent Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Without that dotted circle appearing, the e-matra would appear to
> > have been properly encoded,
>
> No, with proper reordering (and "normal" display mode), the e-matra at
> the beginning of the second word would appear to be last glyph of
Keyur Shroff wrote:
...
>
> No fallback rendering is coming into picture with your explanation.
Yes, there is. A character sequence (say)
is very unlikely to have a ligature, specially adapted (and fitting)
adjustment points, or similar. The rendering would in that sense
need to use a fallba
--- Kent Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Clearly, since in this case the sign is not
> > preceded by any consonant base, it has to be rendered using one of the
> > mechanisms specified in fallback rendering of non-spacing marks.
>
> If it is preceded by a SPACE (or is first in a string
.
Kent Karlsson wrote,
> > I add that this is a good way of displaying a combining mark that has no
> > base character, i.e. one occurring at the begin of a line or paragraph.
>
> No, those should be displayed *as if* preceded by a SPACE (TUS 3.0 page 121).
So it says. But, the 'space method' c
At 01:20 AM 1/30/2003, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
However, I totally agree with Kent that this funny rendering is *not* a
requirement of the Unicode standard, as Keyur Shroff seems to suggest. It is
just an example of many "several methods [that] are available to deal with"
strange sequences.
Perha
Keyur Shroff wrote:
> > However, I totally agree with Kent that this funny
> rendering is *not* a
> > requirement of the Unicode standard, as Keyur Shroff seems
> to suggest. It
> > is just an example of many "several methods [that] are
> available to deal
> > with" strange sequences.
>
> A seq
> Let me give a proper example this time. Consider a "Vowel Sign E" [U+0947]
> appearing after any non-consonant character. This sign is generally
> attached to the consonants. It has zero advance width with negative left
> side bearing in the font.
Ok.
> Clearly, since in this case the sign is
> > I don't know where you find support for that position in that text.
> > Can you please quote? There are no "invalid base consonants" for
> > any dependent vowel (for Indic scripts; similarly for any
> > other script).
>
> Actually, there is a mention of displaying combining marks on dotted
--- Marco Cimarosti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I add that this is a good way of displaying a combining mark that has no
> base character, i.e. one occurring at the begin of a line or paragraph.
>
> However, I totally agree with Kent that this funny rendering is *not* a
> requirement of the
Kent Karlsson wrote:
> Keyur Shroff wrote
> [...]
> > In Indic scripts any sign that appear in text not in
> > conjunction with a
> > valid consonant base may be rendered with dotted circle as fallback
> > mechanism (Section 5.14 "Rendering Nonspacing Marks"
> > http://www.unicode.org/uni2book/ch0
To support what Kayur has to say I will add few more
things.
Take for instance a "vowel sigh" (matras as we call here in
India) e.g. say is e (U093F), is combined with a consonant like ka (U0915) in
the sequence it forms ke. (Please see the first image). The repositioning of the
shape ha
--- Marco Cimarosti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Keyur Shroff wrote:
> > But sometimes a user may want visual representation of these
> > symbols in two different ways: with dotted circle and
> > without dotted circle.
>
> Why not using a dotted circle character explicity, when you want to see
>
Keyur Shroff wrote
> Kent Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > A space followed by a dependent vowel sign should display just the
> > dependent vowel sign, no dotted circle. Indeed, (except for a "show
> > invisibles" mode, or a "character chart" display mode) no (Indic or
> > other)
> >
Keyur Shroff wrote:
> But sometimes a user may want visual representation of these
> symbols in two different ways: with dotted circle and
> without dotted circle.
Why not using a dotted circle character explicity, when you want to see one?
> Example of
> this could be RAsup on top of dotted cir
--- Kent Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A space followed by a dependent vowel sign should display just the
> dependent vowel sign, no dotted circle. Indeed, (except for a "show
> invisibles" mode, or a "character chart" display mode) no (Indic or
> other)
> text that does not contain th
--- Marco Cimarosti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why not representing INV with a double ZWJ? E.g.:
>
> ISCII Unicode
> KA halant INV KA virama ZWJ ZWJ
> RA halant INV RA virama ZWJ ZWJ (i.e., repha)
> INV halant RA ZWJ ZWJ virama RA
> The [new] INV character in Unicode can also be used for displaying dependent
> vowel matras without dotted circle.
A space followed by a dependent vowel sign should display just the
dependent vowel sign, no dotted circle. Indeed, (except for a "show
invisibles" mode, or a "character chart" dis
Keyur Shroff wrote:
> In the FAQ
>http://www.unicode.org/faq/indic.html#16
>
> It is mentioned that following are equivalent
>
> ISCII Unicode
> KA halant INV KA virama ZWJ
> RA halant INV RAsup (i.e., repha)
The last line is really bizarre! I would agree that
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