Re: C1 Control Pictures Proposal

2011-08-22 Thread Sean Leonard
On Aug 17, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Andrew West wrote: Unless you can show evidence that C1 control pictures are currently in use and that there is a clear demand from the user community to On Aug 21, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: Perhaps it would help for you to do a quick survey of

Re: C1 Control Pictures Proposal

2011-08-21 Thread Sean Leonard
Hi Ken et. al., On Aug 17, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ken Whistler wrote: Further comments: On 8/13/2011 10:48 AM, Sean Leonard wrote: In accordance with this and other text in the Standard, it is not really possible to assign glyphs uniformly and interchangeably to the code points in

Re: C1 Control Pictures Proposal

2011-08-21 Thread Doug Ewell
Perhaps it would help for you to do a quick survey of applications that already make use of the existing C0 control pictures, and include the results in your argument. That might help convince some of us who feel the C0 pictures are only there for compatibility with previous character

Re: C1 Control Pictures Proposal

2011-08-17 Thread Sean Leonard
On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Sean Leonard wrote: Greetings--hi all, I'm a new poster. I read on the unicode.org website that a good way to gauge interest and get a proposal through the process is to gather feedback and comments here before investing the time in a formal proposal, so, here

Re: C1 Control Pictures Proposal

2011-08-17 Thread Shriramana Sharma
On 08/17/2011 05:14 PM, Sean Leonard wrote: Just putting a*bump* on this post. Any feedback, or, shall I go directly to a formal proposal? [Original proposal is in the last e-mail so I am not resending the whole thing.] Is that all the proposal? You realize you'll have to give sample glyphs,

Re: C1 Control Pictures Proposal

2011-08-17 Thread Doug Ewell
Sean Leonard lists plus unicode at seantek dot com wrote: Just putting a *bump* on this post. Speaking as an individual with personal opinions, and without a vote in UTC or WG2 (but having followed Unicode for 18 years), I don't see the need for these additional symbols. The C0 pictures in the

Re: C1 Control Pictures Proposal

2011-08-17 Thread Ken Whistler
In general, I agree with Doug Ewell's assessment. I don't see a convincing case here for the need to encode more control picture characters for C1 controls. There seems to be a confusion here between the need for glyphs and the need for characters. Also, this would seem to me to be a receding

Re: C1 Control Pictures Proposal

2011-08-17 Thread Andrew West
On 13 August 2011 18:48, Sean Leonard lists+unic...@seantek.com wrote: The Unicode code points U+ through U+00FF share the equivalent values from the ASCII Standard, ISO 646, ISO 6429, and ISO 8859-1. In many contexts, it is desirable to display all of these code points/characters