Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-21 Thread Timothy Partridge
John Hudson recently said: At 12:29 PM 1/16/2003, Timothy Partridge wrote: Charles Trice Martin wrote The Record Interpreter which lists words in record type and their expansion. The 2nd Edition (1910) has been reprinted many times. The 1999 reprint is a facsimile of the 1910 edition, rather

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-21 Thread Timothy Partridge
John Jenkins said: On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Timothy Partridge wrote: Yes, especially early printing of Latin documents. See for example Gutenberg's bibles. Well, for that matter, even current editions of Spenser's _Faerie Queene_ will use the occasional õ for on,

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-17 Thread Otto Stolz
Kenneth Whistler had written: Handwritten forms and arbitrary manuscript abbreviations should not be encoded as characters. The text should just be represented as m + m. Then, if you wish to *render* such text in a font which mimics this style of handwriting and uses such abbreviations, then you

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-17 Thread John Hudson
At 01:06 AM 1/17/2003, Otto Stolz wrote: John Hudson wrote: Ken's suggestion works fine, but only on discreetly selected runs of text. In other words, it would be up to the user *not* to apply the glyph substitution layout feature in the circumstances Otto describes. [...] Obviously this is

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-17 Thread Christoph Päper
Me, Myself I: m with a macron above. I can't find any such character in Unicode, It seems as if I'm not the first one to wonder: http://www.eki.ee/letter/chardata.cgi?ucode=e000-f8ff although there's the use in bi [Bislama] and yo [Yoruba] listed instead. Never heard of /those/ languages.

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Christoph Päper asked: I recently learned in news:de.etc.sprache.deutsch that there has been a tradition (in handwritten text more than in print) of writing mm as only one m with a macron above. I can't find any such character in Unicode, just U+1E3F and U+1E41. You could of course build

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Otto Stolz
Christoph Päper had asked: there has been a tradition (in handwritten text more than in print) of writing mm as only one m with a macron above. I can't find any such character in Unicode, You could of course build something similar with m+U+0305 to resemble the look, but that won't become mm

RE: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Dominikus Scherkl
the spelling i. e. would [not] distort the content of that is ? i. e. is an latin abbreviation for in exemplum meaning for example not that is. (or am I not even average at english?!?) -- Dominikus Scherkl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread John Cowan
Dominikus Scherkl scripsit: i. e. is an latin abbreviation for in exemplum meaning for example not that is. (or am I not even average at english?!?) It is a Latin abbreviation, but it stands for id est, and therefore corresponds to German d. h. The abbreviation for for example (German z. B.)

RE: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Frank da Cruz
The convention of using a horizontal line to mark an abbreviation, often the omission of m or n, goes back to the middle ages (if not earlier) and was often used in early printed books; apparently it has lived on in some handwriting, to judge from your post. It was used in English too, see:

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 01:35 PM, Kenneth Whistler wrote: Handwritten forms and arbitrary manuscript abbreviations should not be encoded as characters. The text should just be represented as m + m. Then, if you wish to *render* such text in a font which mimics this style of

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Doug Ewell
I've got a lot less to write since everybody else got there first. Christoph Päper christoph dot paeper at tu dash clausthal dot de wrote: I recently learned in news:de.etc.sprache.deutsch that there has been a tradition (in handwritten text more than in print) of writing mm as only one m

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Otto Stolz
Dominikus Scherkl wrote: i. e. is an latin abbreviation for in exemplum meaning for example not that is. i. e. = id est = that is e. g. = exempli gratia = for example Cassel's English-German Dictionary, ISBN 0-02-522920-6, also says so. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Timothy Partridge
Cristoph Päper recently said: Kenneth Whistler: Christoph Päper asked: writing mm as only one m with a macron above. Handwritten forms and arbitrary manuscript abbreviations should not be encoded as characters. Although I've got no proof for it, I was told that it has also been

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Timothy Partridge wrote: Yes, especially early printing of Latin documents. See for example Gutenberg's bibles. Well, for that matter, even current editions of Spenser's _Faerie Queene_ will use the occasional õ for on, and so on. == John

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread John Hudson
At 01:59 AM 1/16/2003, Otto Stolz wrote: Kenneth Whistler wrote: Handwritten forms and arbitrary manuscript abbreviations should not be encoded as characters. The text should just be represented as m + m. Then, if you wish to *render* such text in a font which mimics this style of handwriting

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread John Hudson
At 12:29 PM 1/16/2003, Timothy Partridge wrote: Charles Trice Martin wrote The Record Interpreter which lists words in record type and their expansion. The 2nd Edition (1910) has been reprinted many times. The 1999 reprint is a facsimile of the 1910 edition, rather than being re-typeset. The

RE: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-15 Thread David J. Perry
Christoph, The convention of using a horizontal line to mark an abbreviation, often the omission of m or n, goes back to the middle ages (if not earlier) and was often used in early printed books; apparently it has lived on in some handwriting, to judge from your post. There is no such m-macron

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-15 Thread Markus Scherer
David J. Perry wrote: The convention of using a horizontal line to mark an abbreviation, often the omission of m or n, goes back to the middle ages (if not earlier) and was often used in early printed books; apparently it has lived on in some handwriting, to judge from your post. ... I can