Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-08-01 Thread Peter Krefting
Chris Weber ch...@lookout.net: I downloaded Opera 12 pre-alpha and IDNA2008 doesn't seem to be in here either... correct? The current Opera 12 build from http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ does have IDNA2008 support. -- \\// Peter Krefting - Core Technology Developer, Opera Software

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-07-08 Thread Chris Weber
I downloaded Opera 12 pre-alpha and IDNA2008 doesn't seem to be in here either... correct? Another question around bundling and blocking. Is the recommendation here that all domains containing an ss should be considered for bundling and blocking? So for all new domain name registrations

RE: UTS46 transitional period

2011-07-08 Thread Shawn Steele
, July 08, 2011 10:11 AM To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: UTS46 transitional period I downloaded Opera 12 pre-alpha and IDNA2008 doesn't seem to be in here either... correct? Another question around bundling and blocking. Is the recommendation here that all domains containing an ss should

RE: UTS46 transitional period

2011-07-05 Thread Shawn Steele
30, 2011 3:10 PM To: Neil Harris Cc: unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: UTS46 transitional period On 6/29/2011 4:12 PM, Neil Harris wrote: Firefox currently has an open bug for IDNA 2008 implementation: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=479520 -- Neil Interesting, thanks

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-06-30 Thread Chris Weber
On 6/29/2011 4:12 PM, Neil Harris wrote: Firefox currently has an open bug for IDNA 2008 implementation: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=479520 -- Neil Interesting, thanks for sharing. Nice of DENIC to give a... ahem... 3 week sunrise period. I hope nobody was on vacation!

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-06-29 Thread Peter Krefting
Den 2011-06-29 04:41:22 skrev Chris Weber ch...@lookout.net: I was trying to understand the implementation differences in some browsers and registrars. Using your example from UTS46 http://xn--fa-hia.de/ Opera - error, doesn't resolve We have recently implemented support for IDNA 2008

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-06-29 Thread Chris Weber
On 6/28/2011 11:20 PM, Peter Krefting wrote: Den 2011-06-29 04:41:22 skrev Chris Weber ch...@lookout.net: I was trying to understand the implementation differences in some browsers and registrars. Using your example from UTS46 http://xn--fa-hia.de/ Opera - error, doesn't resolve We have

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-06-29 Thread Mark Davis ☕
For Chrome, we're working on UTS46 support, but I can't comment on schedule. Mark *— Il meglio è l’inimico del bene —* On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 15:25, Chris Weber ch...@lookout.net wrote: On 6/28/2011 11:20 PM, Peter Krefting wrote: Den 2011-06-29 04:41:22 skrev Chris Weber

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-06-29 Thread Neil Harris
On 29/06/11 23:25, Chris Weber wrote: On 6/28/2011 11:20 PM, Peter Krefting wrote: Den 2011-06-29 04:41:22 skrev Chris Weber ch...@lookout.net: I was trying to understand the implementation differences in some browsers and registrars. Using your example from UTS46 http://xn--fa-hia.de/

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-06-28 Thread Chris Weber
On a tangent, under IDNA2003 rules, shouldn't registration and resolution of the punycode form of "faß.de", which is "xn--fa-hia.de" be illegal since the nameprep process would mapp the eszett to "ss"? On 6/27/2011 4:14 PM, Mark Davis ☕ wrote: Once the

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-06-28 Thread Mark Davis ☕
It depends on what you mean. Registrars could and did allow users to enter in labels for registration that would end up getting remapped to other labels before registration. That is, they could let people enter in faß.de http://fass.de or ÖBB.at, even though what was actually registered as far as

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-06-28 Thread Chris Weber
I was trying to understand the implementation differences in some browsers and registrars.  Using your example from UTS46 http://xn--fa-hia.de/ Opera - error, doesn't resolve Internet Explorer - error, doesn't resolve Chrome, FF, and Safari - all resolve with

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-06-28 Thread Mark Davis ☕
IDNA2008 doesn't require that validation be done on punycode. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5891#section-5.3 If the input to this procedure appears to be an A-label (i.e., it starts in xn--, interpreted case-insensitively), the lookup application *MAY* attempt to convert it to a U-label

Re: UTS46 transitional period

2011-06-27 Thread Mark Davis ☕
Once the registries (of that support the 4 special characters) have adopted bundling/blocking policies, then it will be possible for client software to safely move off of the transitional approach. So it is really dependent on the registries' behavior. Different clients may have different