Re: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-20 Thread Martin J. Dürst via Unicode
On 2017/12/20 17:46, Richard Wordingham via Unicode wrote: In an implementation that offered genuine whole word selection, and thus tackled with the challenges of Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese (both scripts, not just CJKV) as well as Thai, I would expect the selections to be bounded

Re: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-20 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:15:11 +0100 Serge Rosmorduc via Unicode wrote: > Hence, you have things like (like 5-6) : : the word ẖsy « small », > is cut between the two lines. The phonetic part is line 5, and the > bird determinative is alone on line 5, above the preposition « m

Re: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-18 Thread Serge Rosmorduc via Unicode
Hello, Concerning word separation and clusters, there was a variety on different practices. At best, one could say that statistically, there is a positive correlation between word cuts and cluster limits. This being said, it depends widely on the era, the quality of the inscription, and the

Re: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-16 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 15:53:13 +0100 Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode wrote: > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Michael Everson > wrote: > > NO. Clusters cannot be broken up just anywhere. > Does that mean that ancient inscriptions would leave gaps at the

Re: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-14 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 18:11:33 + Andrew Glass via Unicode wrote: > We had some discussion on the sidelines of > the August UTC meeting at which time it became clear that more work > is needed as current property values are not entirely correct. > Currently, my Hieroglyphic

RE: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-14 Thread Andrew Glass via Unicode
ct: Re: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs Gentlemen, On 12/14/2017 6:53 AM, Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode wrote: Thus I would like people who are both knowledgeable about hieroglyphs and Unicode properties to weigh in. I know that people like Andrew Glass are on this list, who satisfy both criteria. ​ An

Re: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-14 Thread Ken Whistler via Unicode
Gentlemen, On 12/14/2017 6:53 AM, Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode wrote: Thus I would like people who are both knowledgeable about hieroglyphs /and/ Unicode properties to weigh in. I know that people like Andrew Glass are on this list, who satisfy both criteria. ​ And what constitutes a cluster?

Re: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-14 Thread Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode
Mark On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > On 14 Dec 2017, at 14:14, Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode > wrote: > > > The Word_Break property doesn't have a value Complex_Context, but I > think that was

Re: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-14 Thread Michael Everson via Unicode
On 14 Dec 2017, at 14:14, Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode wrote: > The Word_Break property doesn't have a value Complex_Context, but I think > that was just a typo in your message. > > The word break and line break properties for 1,057 [:Script=Egyp:] characters > are currently

Re: Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-14 Thread Michael Everson via Unicode
On 14 Dec 2017, at 08:09, Richard Wordingham via Unicode <unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > > Is there any valid reason for Egyptian hieroglyphs to have > Word_Break=ALetter rather than Complex_Context? So far as I am aware, > hieroglyphs lack visible word breaks in both inscript

Word_Break for Hieroglyphs

2017-12-14 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
Is there any valid reason for Egyptian hieroglyphs to have Word_Break=ALetter rather than Complex_Context? So far as I am aware, hieroglyphs lack visible word breaks in both inscriptions and in modern transcriptions. Richard.