Re: plane business

2001-10-05 Thread Markus Scherer
Asmus Freytag wrote: Designation changed twice in Unicode, once to designate the surrogates, and once to designate the 32 characters on the BMP as non-characters. Designation also changed between Unicode 1.1 and 2.0 to move around the Private-Use and Hangul blocks, and to add the Plane-16/17

Re: plane business

2001-10-05 Thread Markus Scherer
Bernard Miller wrote: I don't understand this, the arabic non characters are supposed to REPRESENT the hidden non characters? no, they are unrelated and additional. markus

Re: plane business

2001-10-05 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Markus Scherer asked: Asmus Freytag wrote: Designation changed twice in Unicode, once to designate the surrogates, and once to designate the 32 characters on the BMP as non-characters. Designation also changed between Unicode 1.1 and 2.0 to move around the Private-Use and Hangul

Re: plane business

2001-10-02 Thread Bernard Miller
--- Asmus Freytag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 66 non-characters as of Unicode 3.1, there were 34 non-characters before. There are no hidden non-characters, but there were 'hidden' planes in Unicode 3.0 - hidden in the limited sense that they were defined as character and

Re: plane business

2001-10-02 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 10:42 PM 10/1/01 -0700, Bernard Miller wrote: --- Asmus Freytag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 66 non-characters as of Unicode 3.1, there were 34 non-characters before. I understand now.. the non characters in 16 higher planes were defined first, then the ones in the arabic

plane business

2001-10-01 Thread Bernard Miller
in them? At least 17 planes must be defined in order to define the 32 non characters in 16 supplementary planes, that’s what common sense would say anyway. This whole “plane” business suffers from a lack of documentation. UAX #27 talks about planes as if it’s ancient history but the Unicode 3.0

Re: plane business

2001-10-01 Thread Rick McGowan
Some brief and not complete answers follow. I'm trying to get a grasp on exactly how many planes are defined in Unicode [...] How many planes are defined in Unicode 3.1? There are 17 planes, and everything will be re-written to reflect that, eventually. Most of the planes are empty

Re: plane business

2001-10-01 Thread John Cowan
. The planes themselves have been here since 2.0. This whole “plane” business suffers from a lack of documentation. UAX #27 talks about planes as if it’s ancient history but the Unicode 3.0 book does not mention planes once (it’s not in the index anyway). I would like the Unicode documentation

Re: plane business

2001-10-01 Thread Asmus Freytag
There are 66 non-characters as of Unicode 3.1, there were 34 non-characters before. There are no hidden non-characters, but there were 'hidden' planes in Unicode 3.0 - hidden in the limited sense that they were defined as character and non-character locations, but no characters were assigned,