Re: use vs mention (was: second attempt)

2018-11-02 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 07:46:40 + Richard Wordingham via Unicode wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 23:35:06 +0100 > Piotr Karocki via Unicode wrote: > > > These are only examples of changes in meaning with or , > > not all of these examples can really exist - but, then, another > > question: can we

Re: use vs mention (was: second attempt)

2018-11-01 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 23:35:06 +0100 Piotr Karocki via Unicode wrote: > These are only examples of changes in meaning with or , > not all of these examples can really exist - but, then, another > question: can we know what author means? And as carbon and iodine > cannot exist, then of course CI sh

Re: use vs mention (was: second attempt)

2018-10-31 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode
Organic chemistry would need sub/sup alpha, beta and gamma (perhaps others). A./ On 10/31/2018 3:35 PM, Piotr Karocki via Unicode wrote: We don't know whether the abbreviation "Mr", spelled exactly this way, already existe

Re: use vs mention (was: second attempt)

2018-10-31 Thread Piotr Karocki via Unicode
>We don't know whether the abbreviation "Mr", spelled exactly this way, >already existed in that time and in that geographical area. > >You still don't see the difference in the meaning? Maybe another example, from chemistry: 14C = isotope of carbon (carbon 14) 14C = 14 units of carbon (mole, at

Re: second attempt

2018-10-31 Thread Ken Whistler via Unicode
On 10/31/2018 11:27 AM, Asmus Freytag via Unicode wrote: but we don't have an agreement that reproducing all variations in manuscripts is in scope. In fact, I would say that in the UTC, at least, we have an agreement that that clearly is out of scope! Trying to represent all aspects of text

Re: second attempt

2018-10-31 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode
On 10/31/2018 10:32 AM, Janusz S. Bień via Unicode wrote: Let me remind what plain text is according to the Unicode glossary: Computer-encoded text that consists only of a sequence of code points from a given standard, with no other formatting or structural

use vs mention (was: second attempt)

2018-10-31 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Wed, Oct 31 2018 at 9:38 GMT, Julian Bradfield via Unicode wrote: > On 2018-10-31, Janusz S. =?utf-8?Q?Bie=C5=84?= via Unicode > wrote: [...] >> The relevant fragment of the postcard in a loose translation is >> >> Use the following address: ... >> is the abbreviation of magister

Re: second attempt

2018-10-31 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Wed, Oct 31 2018 at 9:38 GMT, Julian Bradfield via Unicode wrote: > On 2018-10-31, Janusz S. =?utf-8?Q?Bie=C5=84?= via Unicode > wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 29 2018 at 12:20 -0700, Doug Ewell via Unicode wrote: > > [ as did I in private mail ] > >>> The abbreviation in the postcard, rendered in >>>

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister" (was: Re: second attempt)

2018-10-31 Thread Khaled Hosny via Unicode
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 03:57:20PM +0100, Marcel Schneider via Unicode wrote: > > We know that for mathematics, a different dividing line meant that it is > > possible > > to create an (almost) plain text version of many (if not most) mathematical > > texts; the conventions of that field are widel

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister" (was: Re: second attempt)

2018-10-31 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
character sequence were displayed. William Overington Wednesday 31 October 2018 Original message >From : unicode@unicode.org Date : 2018/10/31 - 14:57 (GMTST) To : unicode@unicode.org Subject : Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister" (was: Re: second attempt) On 31/10/2018 at

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister" (was: Re: second attempt)

2018-10-31 Thread Marcel Schneider via Unicode
On 31/10/2018 at 11:21, Asmus Freytag via Unicode wrote: > > On 10/31/2018 2:38 AM, Julian Bradfield via Unicode wrote: > > > You could use the various hacks > > you've discussed, with modifier letters; but that is not "encoding", > > that is "abusing Unicode to do markup". At least, that's the vie

Re: second attempt

2018-10-31 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode
On 10/31/2018 2:38 AM, Julian Bradfield via Unicode wrote: You could use the various hacks you've discussed, with modifier letters; but that is not "encoding", that is "abusing Unicode to do markup". At least, that's the view I take! +1 In general, I ha

Re: second attempt (was: A sign/abbreviation for "magister")

2018-10-31 Thread Julian Bradfield via Unicode
On 2018-10-31, Janusz S. =?utf-8?Q?Bie=C5=84?= via Unicode wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29 2018 at 12:20 -0700, Doug Ewell via Unicode wrote: [ as did I in private mail ] >> The abbreviation in the postcard, rendered in >> plain text, is "Mr". > > The relevant fragment of the postcard in a loose transl

second attempt (was: A sign/abbreviation for "magister")

2018-10-30 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
My previous attempt to send this mail was rejected by the list as spam. If this one will not appear on the list, would you be so kind to forward it to the list and the listmaster? On Mon, Oct 29 2018 at 12:20 -0700, Doug Ewell via Unicode wrote: [...] > The abbreviation in the postcard, render