Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-29 Thread Ken Whistler via Unicode
On 10/29/2018 8:06 PM, James Kass via Unicode wrote: could be typed on old-style mechanical typewriters.  Quintessential plain-text, that. Nope. Typewriters were regularly used for underscoring and for strikethrough, both of which are *styling* of text, and not plain text. The mere fact tha

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-29 Thread James Kass via Unicode
Asmus Freytag wrote, > Nevertheless, I think the use of devices like combining underlines > and superscript letters in plain text are best avoided. That's probably true according to the spirit of the underlying encoding principles.  But hasn't that genie already left the bottle? People writ

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-29 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
For the case of "Mister" vs. "Magister", the (double) underlining is not just a stylistic option but conveys semantics as an explicit abbreviation mark ! We are here at the line between what is pure visual encoding (e.g. using superscript letters), and logical encoding (as done eveywhere else in un

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-29 Thread Marcel Schneider via Unicode
On 29/10/18 20:29, Doug Ewell via Unicode wrote: […] > ObMagister: I agree that trying to reflect every decorative nuance of > handwriting is not what plain text is all about. Agreed. > (I also disagree with > those who insist that superscripted abbreviations are required for > correct spelling i

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-29 Thread Doug Ewell via Unicode
Richard Wordingham wrote: >> I like palaeographic renderings of text very much indeed, and in fact >> remain in conflict with members of the UTC (who still, alas, do NOT >> communicate directly about such matters, but only in duelling ballot >> comments) about some actually salient representation

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-29 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 20:42:04 + Michael Everson via Unicode wrote: > I like palaeographic renderings of text very much indeed, and in fact > remain in conflict with members of the UTC (who still, alas, do NOT > communicate directly about such matters, but only in duelling ballot > comments) ab

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-29 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode
On 10/28/2018 11:50 PM, Martin J. Dürst via Unicode wrote: On 2018/10/29 05:42, Michael Everson via Unicode wrote: This is no different the Irish name McCoy which can be written MᶜCoy where the raising of the c is actually just decorative, though per

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-29 Thread Janusz S. Bień via Unicode
On Mon, Oct 29 2018 at 7:57 GMT, James Kass wrote: > Janusz S. Bień asked, > >> Do you claim that in the ground-truth for HWR the >> squiggle and raising doesn't matter? > > Not me! I know, sorry if my previous mail was confusing. > "McCoy", "M=ͨCoy", and "M-ͨCoy" are three different ways of > w

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-29 Thread James Kass via Unicode
Janusz S. Bień asked, > Do you claim that in the ground-truth for HWR the > squiggle and raising doesn't matter? Not me!  "McCoy", "M=ͨCoy", and "M-ͨCoy" are three different ways of writing the same surname.  If I were entering plain text data from an old post card, I'd try to keep the data