Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-24 Thread William_J_G Overington
WJGO It does not seem axiomatic that accented characters for Esperanto would necessarily be included in a digital encoding of the accented characters needed for the languages of Europe. DS Where does languages of Europe come from? It seems to me that an alternative scenario could quite

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-23 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 3/23/2015 10:44 AM, Ken Whistler wrote: And the question, instead, then becomes tracking down through the ancient history of JTC1/SC2/WG3 (-- Note *3*, not *2*), why the participants who drafted 8859-3 felt it was important to include the Esperanto letters in the repertoire for the South

Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-23 Thread William_J_G Overington
Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto Twelve accented characters (uppercase versions and lowercase versions of six accented letters) used for Esperanto are encoded in Unicode. These may well be in Unicode as legacy encoded characters from one or more earlier

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-23 Thread Leo Broukhis
Ken, zgrep U011D /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/* ANSI_X3.110-1983.gz:U011D /xc3/x67 LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH CIRCUMFLEX EUC-JISX0213.gz:U011D /xaa/xe0 LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH CIRCUMFLEX EUC-JP.gz:U011D /x8f/xab/xba LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH CIRCUMFLEX EUC-JP-MS.gz:U011D

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-23 Thread Ken Whistler
On 3/23/2015 8:35 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto Twelve accented characters (uppercase versions and lowercase versions of six accented letters) used for Esperanto are encoded in Unicode. WJO is referring to U+0109,

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-23 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:44:10 -0700 Ken Whistler kenwhist...@att.net wrote: And the question, instead, then becomes tracking down through the ancient history of JTC1/SC2/WG3 (-- Note *3*, not *2*), why the participants who drafted 8859-3 felt it was important to include the Esperanto letters

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Gewecke
On 23 mars 2015, at 08:35, William_J_G Overington wrote: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto These may well be in Unicode as legacy encoded characters from one or more earlier standards. ISO 6937 of 1983 seems to have been designed to support them.

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-23 Thread Ken Whistler
For ISO 8859-3, the answer is in the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-3 It was designed to cover Turkish, Maltese and Esperanto, ... The answer for IBM CP905 is simple -- it is simply the EBCDIC code page of June, 1986 that corresponded to ISO 8859-3. That also covers the answer

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-23 Thread Doug Ewell
Ken wrote: The list of accented Latin letters in the Latin Extended-A block consisted of the union of all of the then-extant ISO 8859 8-bit standard repertoire for various Latin alphabets, *plus* the additional letters culled from the 2nd DP 10646-1. The Esperanto letters can be found in

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-23 Thread Leo Broukhis
So the answer for Unicode is, instead, *yes*, they were in a pre-existing standard that was grandfathered in to the initial collection of accented Latin letters. That's what I was hinting at. :) Leo On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Ken Whistler kenwhist...@att.net wrote: For ISO 8859-3,

Re: Origin of the digital encoding of accented characters for Esperanto

2015-03-23 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:35 AM, William_J_G Overington wjgo_10...@btinternet.com wrote: It does not seem axiomatic that accented characters for Esperanto would necessarily be included in a digital encoding of the accented characters needed for the languages of Europe. Where does languages of