On 24/10/2003 18:09, Kenneth Whistler wrote:
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Incidentally, the characters U+065A..U+065C are all tonal
diacritics for African languages written in the Arabic script.
They should not be confused with the similar shaped diacritics
which are part of the extended letters of Arabic. The tones can
Hi Kenneth, All,
Thank you for the quick clarification of matters.
Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
U+0BA3 TAMIL LETTER NNA is the retroflex n, usually transliterated
as n-underdot U+006E, U+0323.
which is N UofKöln transliteration, I assume.
U+0BA9 TAMIL LETTER NNNA is the
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have combining classes actually been defined for these characters?
This is of course exactly the same problem as with Hebrew vowel points
and accents, except that this time it applies to real living languages.
Perhaps it is time to do something about these
On 25/10/2003 04:11, Philippe Verdy wrote:
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have combining classes actually been defined for these characters?
This is of course exactly the same problem as with Hebrew vowel points
and accents, except that this time it applies to real living languages.
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
Kernel
1) File names in Unicode: no (well, the Linux kernel is 8-bits clean
so you can always encode in UTF-8, but the kernel does not do any
normalization
As other have written, I don't think kernel has any business with
normalization (although on Mac OS X,
Jungshik Shin wrote:
the applications do not expect UTF-8, for instance
ls sorts alphabetically but dot not know Unicode sorting).
Does 'ls' sort filenames when they're in ISO-8859-1?
My ls, using the sv_SE.ISO-8859-1 locale, properly sorts file names
alphabetically.
Stefan
For the record, I repeat that I am not convinced that the CGJ is an
appropriate solution for the problems associated with the right Meteg. I
tend to think we need a separate character.
Jony
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From: Jony Rosenne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For the record, I repeat that I am not convinced that the CGJ is an
appropriate solution for the problems associated with the right Meteg. I
tend to think we need a separate character.
Yes, it's possible to devize another character explicitly to override
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wonder if it would in fact be possible to merge certain adjacent
combining classes, as from a future numbered version N of the standard.
That would not affect the normalisation of existing text; text
normalised before version N would remain normalised in
Hi!
Just a quick question.. The description for U+0024 (DOLLAR SIGN) states that the glyph
may contain one or two vertical bars. Is there a codepoint specifically for the
traditional double-bar form, or any plan to include one in the future?
I was taught at school that the double-bar form was
On 25/10/2003 09:11, Philippe Verdy wrote:
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
The problem would then be the interoperability of Unicode-compliant
systems using distinct versions of Unicode (for example between
XML processors, text editors, input methods, renderers, text
converters, full
At 03:36 AM 10/26/03 +1100, Simon Butcher wrote:
Just a quick question.. The description for U+0024 (DOLLAR SIGN) states
that the glyph may contain one or two vertical bars. Is there a codepoint
specifically for the traditional double-bar form, or any plan to include
one in the future?
No.
I
Among the new characters in N2676 there is
10186 G GREEK ARTABE SIGN
This is one of the many signs found in papyri, such as those edited by
Kenyon. This symbol represents apparently a measure of volume used for
grain. It appears as a small circle, smaller than omicron, with a long
overline,
Philippe Verdy wrote:
The problem with this solution is that stability is not guaranteed across
backward versions of Unicode: if a tool A implements the new version of
combining classes and normalizes its input, it will keep the relative
ordering of characters. If its output is injected into a
On 25/10/2003 10:16, Asmus Freytag wrote:
At 03:36 AM 10/26/03 +1100, Simon Butcher wrote:
Just a quick question.. The description for U+0024 (DOLLAR SIGN)
states that the glyph may contain one or two vertical bars. Is there
a codepoint specifically for the traditional double-bar form, or any
At 02:29 +0200 2003-10-25, Philippe Verdy wrote:
0659 ARABIC ZWARAKAY . Pashto
Why not ARABIC MACRON ? Well, Zwarakay may be appropriate if this is the
transliterated Arabic name.
It isn't a macron. It's a zwarakay, and that's a Pashto name.
--
Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * *
Hello
My apologies if such kind of question is too silly,
but I browse quickly through resources\FAQ and did not find anything useful for
me
Im having bunch of files that are in Cyrillic charset
and I need to transfer then to some device that is not capable to show such
carset (dont
At 05:51 PM 10/25/03 +0100, Raymond Mercier wrote:
Among the new characters in N2676 there is
10186 G GREEK ARTABE SIGN
This is one of the many signs found in papyri, such as those edited by
Kenyon. This symbol represents apparently a measure of volume used for
grain. It appears as a small
Peter Jacobi peter_jacobi at gmx dot net wrote:
So, in effect the UNICODE character names attempt to be
a unified transliteration scheme for all languages? Are these
principles laid down somewhere or is this more informal?
The Unicode character names attempt to be (a) unique and (b)
Check out ICU4J (http://oss.software.ibm.com/icu4j/).
There is a demo of transliteration at http://oss.software.ibm.com/cgi-bin/icu/tr.
For Cyrillic, we currently only do an ISO-based transliteration, but you can do
your own custom ones.
(The demo will store custom rules that people have
Deborah W. Anderson dwanders at pacbell dot net wrote:
The Business section in today's San Jose Mercury News (Friday, Oct.
24) has a story on Unicode and the Script Encoding Initiative:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/business/7092371.htm
Nice article. Good to see some mainstream
On 25/10/2003 14:08, Doug Ewell wrote:
Peter Jacobi peter_jacobi at gmx dot net wrote:
So, in effect the UNICODE character names attempt to be
a unified transliteration scheme for all languages? Are these
principles laid down somewhere or is this more informal?
The Unicode character
Doug Ewell wrote:
[...] about You see, boys and girls, computers think only in numbers
-- in a Silicon Valley paper,
[...] Should we tell them about real quotes?
real quotes are not just for Web publication; they are also for email.
Throw in real dashes, of the kind en or em you prefer
Hi!
snip
I was taught at school that the double-bar form was used
when Australia
switched to decimal currency in 1966, and that it was
incorrect to write
the single-bar form when referring to Australian dollars.
It would be interesting if you could document that.
That could be tough
At 11:02 AM 10/26/03 +1100, Simon Butcher wrote:
Hi!
snip
I was taught at school that the double-bar form was used
when Australia
switched to decimal currency in 1966, and that it was
incorrect to write
the single-bar form when referring to Australian dollars.
It would be interesting if
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can see that there might be some problems in the changeover phase. But
these are basically the same problems as are present anyway, and at
least putting them into a changeover phase means that they go away
gradually instead of being standardised for ever,
From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wonder how long before the Euro will also de facto have a single bar?
This is already done since the birth of the symbol, when some legal texts
specify that (if nothing else) a uppercase letter E can be used in
environments that don't support the exact
From: Simon Butcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi!
Just a quick question.. The description for U+0024 (DOLLAR SIGN) states
that the glyph may contain one or two vertical bars. Is there a codepoint
specifically for the traditional double-bar form, or any plan to include one
in the future?
I was taught
Sorry, Philippe, I had meant a separate character for a right Meteg, not a
separate control character. Does this mean we agree?
Jony
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