Re: Ah the power of emoji! To encompass even science and mythology!

2017-08-24 Thread William_J_G Overington via Unicode
Asmus Freytag wrote: > Philippe, > thank you for your earnest efforts at explaining away a joke. > I'm sure I'm speaking for the assembled congregation in applauding you for > your tireless energy in setting the record straight. Well, as Asmus is purporting to speak

Re: Rendering variants of U+3127 Bopomofo Letter I

2017-08-24 Thread Ken Whistler via Unicode
Albrecht, See TUS, Section 18.3, Bopomofo, p. 707: http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode10.0.0/ch18.pdf#G22553 --Ken On 8/24/2017 12:19 AM, Dreiheller, Albrecht via Unicode wrote: Hello Chinese experts, The Letter I in the Bopomofo alphabet (U+3127)has a two rendering variants, a

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread Andre Schappo via Unicode
Because there are many systems that can now handle BMP characters but not cannot handle SMP characters. One example being systems that use mysql utf8 (3 byte encoding) and have not yet updated to utf8mb4 (4 byte encoding) So, I consider it important to familiarise students with SMP characters

Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread Andre Schappo via Unicode
I came across this School Unicode exercise https://community.computingatschool.org.uk/resources/4546 The exercise concerns Emoji but to me the important point is that the schoolchildren are having to think about SMP characters. I do not know if schools gives an explanation of the BMP and SMP

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread Shriramana Sharma via Unicode
So how do you think it matters if the characters are in the BMP or SMP?

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
2017-08-24 19:17 GMT+02:00 Andre Schappo via Unicode : > > Because there are many systems that can now handle BMP characters but not > cannot handle SMP characters. > > One example being systems that use mysql utf8 (3 byte encoding) and have > not yet updated to utf8mb4 (4

Re: Version linking?

2017-08-24 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
2017-08-17 22:37 GMT+02:00 Richard Wordingham via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org>: > Thus, at the level of undisputable text, in Indic scripts there appears > to be no provision for the ordering of multiple left matras that are > to be stored in logical order (i.e. backing order) after the onset >

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 17:17:10 + Andre Schappo via Unicode wrote: > So, I consider it important to familiarise students with SMP > characters as well as BMP characters. Then when they develop software > they will, at the start, be thinking beyond ASCII and Unicode BMP >

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode
On 8/24/2017 10:17 AM, Andre Schappo via Unicode wrote: Because there are many systems that can now handle BMP characters but not cannot handle SMP characters. One example being systems that use mysql utf8 (3 byte encoding) and have not yet updated to utf8mb4 (4 byte encoding) So, I consider

Fwd: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread David Starner via Unicode
-- Forwarded message - From: David Starner Date: Thu, Aug 24, 2017, 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Unicode education in Schools To: Richard Wordingham On Thu, Aug 24, 2017, 5:26 PM Richard Wordingham via Unicode <

Rendering variants of U+3127 Bopomofo Letter I

2017-08-24 Thread Dreiheller, Albrecht via Unicode
Hello Chinese experts, The Letter I in the Bopomofo alphabet (U+3127) has a two rendering variants, a vertical bar and a horizontal bar. Can anyone please tell me the context criteria, when should which variant be used? Is it VR China using the vertical form (like in font SimSun) and Taiwan

Re: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
Strings in Java and JavaScript are basically the same as they are arbitrary sequences of 16-bit code units, and not restricted to text with valid UTF-16 encoding. The differences are in the set of access methods, but they are both normally immutable, and both allow (but do enforce) substrings to

RE: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread Shriramana Sharma via Unicode
IIUC the limitation seems to be only that functions such as "charAt" do not recognize that surrogates aren't valid characters: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/String/charAt via https://stackoverflow.com/a/8716157/1503120. This is a problem of many

RE: Unicode education in Schools

2017-08-24 Thread Peter Constable via Unicode
I thought Javascript had a UCS-2 understanding of Unicode strings. Has it managed to progress beyond that? Peter From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of David Starner via Unicode Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 5:18 PM To: Unicode Mailing List