On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 00:57, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
To launch what you know you have installed, use the Dash.
To explore what may be installed, or may be available, use the Software
Centre.
Wow , that's a shocking suggestion : in order to see what's
available I need to
On 02/23/2012 01:43 AM, Omar B. wrote:
@Marco
maybe is better to create a new bug and add yours as duplicate. Oh and
if you start your description with wish and dont have much argument,
it usually gets added to wishlist...
I assure you that such matters does not affect how bugs are
I was greeted by a small surprise today in updating my Precise machines: a
new version of Ubuntu One controls that is made using Qt. All well enough,
as it can make it much easier to share code with the Windows version of the
app... But there are still some consequences.
First of all, this brings
Dear Adrian,
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Adrian Maier syra...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow , that's a shocking suggestion : in order to see what's
available I need to start an application.
And this is supposed to be a progress compared to the old-style
desktop environments that can display a
I enthusiastically support this! As I just said in another message, it
would make the life of my small kid easier...
best,
Paulo
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote:
In lenses, it is not obvious what the filters do, if anything at all. It
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 00:55, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22. feb. 2012 23:13, Adrian Maier wrote:
The classic gnome2 menu is so efficient that I don't feel the need to
create shortcuts for applications ... That's why i find it extremely
productive .
There is
Hi everybody
First, i want to point I'm overall very very happy with Unity efforts,
and i speak out loud about it since Natty, it's a great thing, and it
helped increasing my productivity a lot, while getting me back to a more
standard desktop (was using wmii before, as gnome ergonomic didn't
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 13:17, pjssi...@gmail.com pjssi...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Adrian,
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Adrian Maier syra...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow , that's a shocking suggestion : in order to see what's
available I need to start an application.
And this is supposed to be a
On 23. feb. 2012 12:27, Adrian Maier wrote:
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 00:55, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22. feb. 2012 23:13, Adrian Maier wrote:
The classic gnome2 menu is so efficient that I don't feel the need to
create shortcuts for applications ... That's why
While I like this idea, it'll probably get a lot of flak from the LINUX IS
FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!11 crowd.
Are we supposed to tell The Document Foundation/Mozilla/etc hey you want to
make an Ubuntu version? Make it in {insert toolkit}? I understand applications
Canonical itself builds should be
I'd like to see some settings created in System Settings Privacy that
address privacy from an Internet-Connection-Behavior standpoint. Essentially,
the creation of some mechanism whereby users would be able to configure Ubuntu
so that nonessential internet connections do not occur unless
@Adrian
I think the issues you and other people are experiencing could be sum up in a
few bugs that need reporting:
1- Filters: show them by default; proposal by Jo-Erlend :
https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg08031.html
2- An easier default view when showing/scrolling all apps: Alan
2012/2/22 Adrian Maier syra...@gmail.com:
Hello people,
Today I've been curious to see what is the current status of Unity
compared to the version shipped last year with 11.04.
So i've installed the Ubuntu daily beta 12.04 in a virtual machine .
The main thing I would like to comment
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 17:01, Omar B. estela...@hotmail.com wrote:
@Adrian
I think the issues you and other people are experiencing could be sum up in
a few bugs that need reporting:
1- Filters: show them by default; proposal by Jo-Erlend :
On 23. feb. 2012 16:19, Adrian Maier wrote:
I obviously had no idea about the possibility to start this
gnome-panel inside Unity . Thanks for the tip !
You're welcome. Use AskUbuntu. Nobody knows everything, but someone
knows everything there is to know.
You mean such as unselecting the
That freedom of choice crowd can take it some place where the sun doesn't
shine. I don't mean to offense of course, even thou my words sound very
harsh.
What I mean is that the community should try to work together even more and
try to reduce the redundancy. As pointed out by the previous two
On 23. feb. 2012 18:30, Chris wrote:
That freedom of choice crowd can take it some place where the sun
doesn't shine. I don't mean to offense of course, even thou my words
sound very harsh.
[snip]
Thoughts?
I may have a few, but I guess I'll leave you with one: Is this the
right
And i use third party foss tools (and even web apps) in windows and mac too.
Why? not just because i believe and trust in open source, but also because they
suit all my current needs.
From: merkin...@hotmail.com
To: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:22:40 -0500
A toolkit and a theming problem/inconsistency are 2 different things.
Ubuntu is trying to follow the just works model, so must use the best
available if possible. So i believe that is more important now, but better
looks is not off the radar.
I agree there are theming inconsistencies in
This discussion is rather ridiculous.
If you an desktop environment built on a single toolkit, install a distro
that ships a vanilla Gnome 3.2 (Evolution, Epiphany, Gnome Shell, Gnome
Office, etc) or KDE 4.8 (KMail, Konqueror, KWin, Caligra, etc).
What you are looking for is already there and,
the right-click menu in the launchers for e.g. Empathy or Transmission show
an entry labeled Quit.
Clicking this item does not make the applications quit, it merely closes
their respective main window.
Quit and Close should be treated in a distinctive manner, this is important
to the mental
You're right that the vanilla isn't very good. But does that somehow mean
that we can't make it better? Just because those examples are bad, doesn't
preclude the possibility.
Now, don't put words in my mouth: I didn't say make TDF make a GTK version
of LibreOffice. I did say there was room for
On Thu 23 Feb 2012 20:01:12 GMT, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote:
the right-click menu in the launchers for e.g. Empathy or Transmission
show an entry labeled Quit.
Clicking this item does not make the applications quit, it merely
closes their respective main window.
Quit and Close should be
On 23. feb. 2012 21:01, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Does this require further discussion?
No, I don't think it does. I completely agree with you. It should close
the application with all its windows. I just confirmed with Transmission
that it simply closes the window. In my
You talk about the quick-lists in the launcher?
It does not make sense to close, because after closing the program can
still run and the launcher can not decide which window to close. In the
quick-list should only be quit, which makes the program shut down.
Ctrl+W is the short-cut to close (a
On 23. feb. 2012 21:11, Jonathan Meek wrote:
You're right that the vanilla isn't very good. But does that somehow
mean that we can't make it better? Just because those examples are
bad, doesn't preclude the possibility.
Now, don't put words in my mouth: I didn't say make TDF make a GTK
On 23. feb. 2012 22:14, Adrian Maier wrote:
I mean : hiding the apps available for download
Yes, that's what I mean as well. Look at Sources at the bottom of the
filters in the applications lens. Choose Local and you'll only show the
installed applications, and not the ones from Ubuntu
On 23 February 2012 15:11, Jonathan Meek shrouded.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
See, Ubuntu is still about choice even if this idea for a push is taken up.
Ubuntu isn't about choice though. One of Ubuntu's foundational
principles was that it would be a Linux distribution where the
developers make the
Ubuntu isn't about choice though. One of Ubuntu's foundational
principles was that it would be a Linux distribution where the
developers make the intelligent, informed decisions so people don't
have to answer 20 questions just to use it. For instance, only one web
browser is installed by
So yeah, an app called Porn View showed up while I was demoing Ubuntu to
a friend. Despite the brief embarrassment and explanations, I doubt that
person will take Ubuntu seriously. We should probably restrict
pornographic apps to the store and keep the lenses PG.
--
Mailing list:
On 24. feb. 2012 01:53, Colton Allen wrote:
So yeah, an app called Porn View showed up while I was demoing
Ubuntu to a friend. Despite the brief embarrassment and explanations,
I doubt that person will take Ubuntu seriously. We should probably
restrict pornographic apps to the store and keep
On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 02:14 +0100, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
We should not forbid other peoples wishes because of ancient beliefs
in witches and weird stuff. If Ubuntu starts to sensor things, it will
no doubt be my reason to not only drop out, but become an extremely
verbal enemy.
Well,
I believe Colton is right and even better the solution is in the works. Am
I correct that in the future the apps available for download feature
current in many lenses will become opt-in in the future? I don't believe in
censoring the apps available for download from the app store (besides
On 24. feb. 2012 02:20, cmaglothin wrote:
He didn't say take them out of the market, I think he meant take them
out of the suggested apps in the lenses. Or at least make it where
non-PG apps are not placed in the suggestions of the lenses by default
and have it be opt out.
I had never
This is a mailing list about Unity's design, please reign it in.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24. feb. 2012 02:20, cmaglothin wrote:
He didn't say take them out of the market, I think he meant take them out
of the suggested
The application that started this discussion, PornView, isn't even a
pornographic application, it's just an image viewer.
From: cmaglot...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:34:43 -0600
To: joerlend.schins...@gmail.com
CC: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Unity-design] Remove
On 24. feb. 2012 03:48, Jonathan Meek wrote:
This is a mailing list about Unity's design, please reign it in.
Thank you for reminding me, and for the compliment. You obviously think
I wouldn't have used stronger words in private. :)
I won't ever let something like this slide. I will always
On 24. feb. 2012 04:00, Mark Curtis wrote:
The application that started this discussion, PornView, isn't even a
pornographic application, it's just an image viewer.
It still conjures up the idea that you might be able to see a naked
animal of our own species. Consider the mayhem that would
On 24. feb. 2012 04:05, Mathieu Comandon wrote:
A better solution, IMHO, would be to take the apps displayed as
Available for download from a white-list. This is not about ethical
issues, porn or personal beliefs but only about Quality Assurance and
design.
I admire your pragmatism. Ubuntu
As much as I love reading GIANT emails from religious people, I think this
should be closed as it was solved.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Ryan Gauger rtg...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/23/2012 07:14 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
On 24. feb. 2012 01:53, Colton Allen wrote:
So yeah, an
On 02/23/2012 09:32 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
On 23 February 2012 22:25, Ryan Gaugerrtg...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/23/2012 09:18 PM, Dub wrote:
As much as I love reading GIANT emails from religious people, I think this
should be closed as it was solved.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Ryan
On 24. feb. 2012 04:25, Ryan Gauger wrote:
I also think that this should (if it is closed) be read by other
people. ---I am not religious. I am simply a person who cares about
other people. I care about people in this way because I do not want
them to take a vacation (a bad one, and for
On 24. feb. 2012 04:21, Mark Curtis wrote:
Yes of course, we should only ban/allow what you personally find
(un)acceptable.
That won't cause any problems in an operating system reaching the
world with numerous cultures or anything.
Also as I said before, *PornView isn't even a pornographic
I propose this thread now be called 'Add Pornogrpahic Apps to the Apps
available for download'. I've been actively searching and can't find a single
pornographic app in the Ubuntu Software Center. Maybe I'm just not using the
correct keyword(s).
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:41:45 +0100
From:
Listen.. We don't all share the exact same ideas about what's
appropriate. One idea we can share, is that if your children are on the
internet, you need to pay attention. If you are afraid of the values on
the internet and care about your child, well, then you simply can't
allow the internet
Let me bring some clarity. First of all It's actually the opposite problem
with Christianity vs Non-theism as you call it. Everyone is trying to make
theism in general and Christianity in particular illegal outside of
churches. As for your atheism Jo, I demand you keep it to yourself. I've
not
On 02/23/2012 09:58 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
Listen.. We don't all share the exact same ideas about what's
appropriate. One idea we can share, is that if your children are on
the internet, you need to pay attention. If you are afraid of the
values on the internet and care about your
On 23 February 2012 22:50, Ryan Gauger rtg...@gmail.com wrote:
How is it inappropriate that I am trying to turn people's eyes towards
Jesus? Jesus can save! He is the most-powerful. We have never had any
conversations like this before to my knowledge, so please do not
un-subscribe. Fact: Only
On 02/23/2012 10:02 PM, Gino Vincenzini wrote:
Let me bring some clarity. First of all It's actually the opposite
problem with Christianity vs Non-theism as you call it. Everyone is
trying to make theism in general and Christianity in particular
illegal outside of churches. As for your atheism
On 23 February 2012 23:12, Ryan Gauger rtg...@gmail.com wrote:
It is the space if Jesus tells me to do so on this mailing list. I am with
you, it has nothing to do with the discussion now, but Jesus gives all
Christians permission to (and actually tells them to in the Bible) spread
the Good
On 02/23/2012 10:18 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
On 23 February 2012 23:12, Ryan Gaugerrtg...@gmail.com wrote:
It is the space if Jesus tells me to do so on this mailing list. I am with
you, it has nothing to do with the discussion now, but Jesus gives all
Christians permission to (and actually
Le 24/02/2012 04:50, Ryan Gauger a écrit :
On 02/23/2012 09:34 PM, Loris Zinsou wrote:
Le 24/02/2012 04:13, Ryan Gauger a écrit :
On 02/23/2012 07:14 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
On 24. feb. 2012 01:53, Colton Allen wrote:
So yeah, an app called Porn View showed up while I was demoing
The discussion is going crazily off-topic.
And, as it appears, the most discussed Ubuntu package so far in 2012
has been pornview. The same discussion has been brought over multiple
times, and every time we've had (nearly) the same outcome: implement
maturity ratings in Software Center and have
On 02/23/2012 10:41 PM, Loris Zinsou wrote:
Le 24/02/2012 04:50, Ryan Gauger a écrit :
On 02/23/2012 09:34 PM, Loris Zinsou wrote:
Le 24/02/2012 04:13, Ryan Gauger a écrit :
On 02/23/2012 07:14 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
On 24. feb. 2012 01:53, Colton Allen wrote:
So yeah, an app called
Hey guys,
I'd just like to apologize for the mess I've caused. When I started the
thread I had no intention of creating such controversy. I'm sorry for the
ruckus I've caused and hope we can all treat the problem with the
seriousness it deserves.
Jo is correct. Offensive is a relative term.
Discussions on Porn, Children Education, Bible, Religion, Pro vs
Anti-USA, Books, etc. In a Unity-Design Mailing List? Is this ML
moderated? If so, please, adopt a more strict policy. Just ban everyone
who posts anything OT. Everyone is free to shut down the PC, go to a
bar, pick someone that
you didn't cause this mess and your original post was reasonable.i was
also going to post asking if we were currently still going to have the apps
available for download bit in the dash and if so suggest it be removed as
the space could be better used and it would also have solved the issue
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Alvaro Effenberg0x0 Leal
effenberg...@gmail.com wrote:
Discussions on Porn, Children Education, Bible, Religion, Pro vs
Anti-USA, Books, etc. In a Unity-Design Mailing List? Is this ML moderated?
If so, please, adopt a more strict policy. Just ban everyone
Guys please , This is the Unity-Design mailing list for discussing unity
and stuff. Please do not make it un-family friendly.
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Alvaro Effenberg0x0 Leal
effenberg...@gmail.com wrote:
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