Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-18 Thread Thibaut Brandscheid
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Petko pditc...@gmail.com wrote: First a few notes : 1. The feature in question is very old ,and a lot of people have their way around it . 2. Inheriting the info from 1. - I'm not quite sure how many people (old as they may be) have a problem with the

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-17 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thibaut Brandscheid wrote on 13/12/12 00:01: ... This is a real world problem, I've multiple times rearranged the sorting for an elderly man in Thunderbird (he has the same problem in Nautilus but not enough files to get lost there). Thats an

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-17 Thread Petko
First a few notes : 1. The feature in question is very old ,and a lot of people have their way around it . 2. Inheriting the info from 1. - I'm not quite sure how many people (old as they may be) have a problem with the feature. What is our representative sample ? I'm having these thoughts

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-14 Thread Connor Carney
Why can't the implementation be global? The existing sort interface is globally implemented by Gtk. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Petko pditc...@gmail.com wrote: My two cents : I don't think that removing the bar with the column names is inappropriate - it's just needed to understand the

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-12 Thread Colin Law
On 11 December 2012 22:00, Thibaut Brandscheid randal...@web.de wrote: As well as being simple for a basic user facilities that more sophisticated users need must be provided. Next you will be suggesting removing split screen and tree view from Nautilus. No-one would ever suggest that.

[Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-11 Thread Thibaut Brandscheid
I would like to suggest the removal of all Sort-By buttons in all applications shipped with Ubuntu. The reasons: - they can break the UX in an app for an average user completely - they are rarely used - we don't need them Instead make a default how content should be sorted in Ubuntu and stick to

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-11 Thread Josh Strawbridge
just because an application ships with ubuntu doesn't mean that ubuntu has anything to do with actually working on the program. you're probably better off sending this to the developers of each application. personally, i'm against the idea. it is true that i rarely use them and do ignore them for

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-11 Thread Gabriel Pettier
I would hate this too, even if you seldomly use it, doesn't need you won't find it infuriating that it went away when you'll actually need it. I'm pretty sure people would hate to have them removed. Le 11/12/2012 21:10, Josh Strawbridge a écrit : just because an application ships with ubuntu

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-11 Thread Thibaut Brandscheid
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Josh Strawbridge holyknightjos...@gmail.com wrote: just because an application ships with ubuntu doesn't mean that ubuntu has anything to do with actually working on the program. I'm aware about that. The reason why I post it here is because I think it's an

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-11 Thread Thibaut Brandscheid
As well as being simple for a basic user facilities that more sophisticated users need must be provided. Next you will be suggesting removing split screen and tree view from Nautilus. No-one would ever suggest that. The split view is not a feature in the main UI window of nautilus causing

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-11 Thread Mathieu Beliveau
I believe what I'm about to say have been said more than a thousand times before, but still, I feel like adding some weight. Rather than adress this remove sort button proposal (considering it is not a troll); I'd like make a stance against this reductionist mentality. The more a software can do,

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-11 Thread Florian Diesch
Am Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:55:40 +0100 schrieb Thibaut Brandscheid randal...@web.de: Yes, we need the sort functionality, but do we need this one-click-buttons in the front UI? If you would have to go to the settings, or would have to right click to unlock and make the Sort-By buttons visible and

Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button

2012-12-11 Thread Dylan McCall
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Gregory Merchan gregory.merc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: What about moving the sort functionality to a menu? Then, it can be easily accessed through HUD, preserving easy access fit who use