Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-24 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 02/24/2012 05:03 AM, Ryan Gauger wrote: Ubuntu itself may not be a Christian operating system, but Mark Shuttleworth is a Christian, and so am I Mark Shuttleworth calls himself a wonder-filled-atheist, see: http://matthewhelmke.net/2008/07/an-interview-with-the-sabdfl/ Now please go away,

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-24 Thread Gino Vincenzini
And again, facepalm at the millitant atheism. On Feb 24, 2012 5:23 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: On 02/24/2012 05:03 AM, Ryan Gauger wrote: Ubuntu itself may not be a Christian operating system, but Mark Shuttleworth is a Christian, and so am I Mark Shuttleworth calls himself a

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-24 Thread Steven Verbeek
Okay guys let's drop this. This is NOT the place to have this discussion. Not even remotely. On 2012-02-24, at 6:45 AM, Gino Vincenzini openmysourcec...@gmail.com wrote: And again, facepalm at the millitant atheism. On Feb 24, 2012 5:23 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: On

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps Available for Download

2012-02-24 Thread Ryan Gauger
Manish, You still do not have any facts. If you want to disprove Christianity, it would certainly help if you had the facts and didn't just say Christianity is evil! Christianity is stupid!. My Jesus is also your Jesus. Are you calling me a nutjob? If you are, you just called a 14 year old

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps Available for Download

2012-02-24 Thread Ryan Gauger
On 02/24/2012 10:16 AM, Ian Santopietro wrote: I honestly don't think anybody is trying to say that christianity is wrong. But what a lot of the people here are saying is that they don't personally believe in it. It's wrong for them. You are fully entitled to believe what you choose, and no one

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps Available for Download

2012-02-24 Thread Alan Bell
On 24/02/12 16:10, Ryan Gauger wrote: Manish, You still do not have any facts. If you want to disprove Christianity, it would certainly help if you had the facts and didn't just say Christianity is evil! Christianity is stupid!. My Jesus is also your Jesus. Are you calling me a nutjob? If

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps Available for Download

2012-02-24 Thread Laura Czajkowski
Can we all please just drop this subject, this is not a suitable topic for an Ubuntu mailing list. Please try and be respectful of peoples beliefs and cultures and remember we do have the Code of Conduct on this mailing list. Now can we please move on. Laura On 24/02/12 16:16, Ian

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps Available for Download

2012-02-24 Thread a.gra...@gmail.com
Hi, On 24 February 2012 17:20, Ryan Gauger rtg...@gmail.com wrote: No, what is wrong is that you are trying to hold me back from doing what Jesus Christ has told me to do. He says in the Bible to Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations. Anything wrong with that? I don't think very

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps Available for Download

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Folks, please stop this thread, it's not constructive. This is not a mailing list for discussions about religion or culture, except as it applies to the design and user experience of Unity and Ubuntu. Just stop. The community council is the best place to have a conversation about policy in

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps Available for Download

2012-02-24 Thread supernova
Good idea that of parental control. It could be better to close this discussion and open another one... Supernova -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help :

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps Available for Download

2012-02-24 Thread Michael Hall
Yes, but open it on another list please, since it's not really part of unity-design. Michael Hall mhall...@gmail.com On 02/24/2012 01:31 PM, supernova wrote: Good idea that of parental control. It could be better to close this discussion and open another one... Supernova -- Mailing list:

[Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Colton Allen
So yeah, an app called Porn View showed up while I was demoing Ubuntu to a friend. Despite the brief embarrassment and explanations, I doubt that person will take Ubuntu seriously. We should probably restrict pornographic apps to the store and keep the lenses PG. -- Mailing list:

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 24. feb. 2012 01:53, Colton Allen wrote: So yeah, an app called Porn View showed up while I was demoing Ubuntu to a friend. Despite the brief embarrassment and explanations, I doubt that person will take Ubuntu seriously. We should probably restrict pornographic apps to the store and keep

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 02:14 +0100, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: We should not forbid other peoples wishes because of ancient beliefs in witches and weird stuff. If Ubuntu starts to sensor things, it will no doubt be my reason to not only drop out, but become an extremely verbal enemy. Well,

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Elias K Gardner
I believe Colton is right and even better the solution is in the works. Am I correct that in the future the apps available for download feature current in many lenses will become opt-in in the future? I don't believe in censoring the apps available for download from the app store (besides

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 24. feb. 2012 02:20, cmaglothin wrote: He didn't say take them out of the market, I think he meant take them out of the suggested apps in the lenses. Or at least make it where non-PG apps are not placed in the suggestions of the lenses by default and have it be opt out. I had never

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jonathan Meek
This is a mailing list about Unity's design, please reign it in. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote: On 24. feb. 2012 02:20, cmaglothin wrote: He didn't say take them out of the market, I think he meant take them out of the suggested

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Mark Curtis
Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download I really don't think that that was at all called for. All that was said is that there needs to be a line drawn somewhere. People shouldn't have to deal with pornography applications showing up out of the blue on their PC. By non-PG I simply

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 24. feb. 2012 03:48, Jonathan Meek wrote: This is a mailing list about Unity's design, please reign it in. Thank you for reminding me, and for the compliment. You obviously think I wouldn't have used stronger words in private. :) I won't ever let something like this slide. I will always

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 24. feb. 2012 04:00, Mark Curtis wrote: The application that started this discussion, PornView, isn't even a pornographic application, it's just an image viewer. It still conjures up the idea that you might be able to see a naked animal of our own species. Consider the mayhem that would

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 24. feb. 2012 04:05, Mathieu Comandon wrote: A better solution, IMHO, would be to take the apps displayed as Available for download from a white-list. This is not about ethical issues, porn or personal beliefs but only about Quality Assurance and design. I admire your pragmatism. Ubuntu

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Dub
As much as I love reading GIANT emails from religious people, I think this should be closed as it was solved. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Ryan Gauger rtg...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/23/2012 07:14 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: On 24. feb. 2012 01:53, Colton Allen wrote: So yeah, an

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Ryan Gauger
On 02/23/2012 09:32 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 23 February 2012 22:25, Ryan Gaugerrtg...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/23/2012 09:18 PM, Dub wrote: As much as I love reading GIANT emails from religious people, I think this should be closed as it was solved. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Ryan

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 24. feb. 2012 04:25, Ryan Gauger wrote: I also think that this should (if it is closed) be read by other people. ---I am not religious. I am simply a person who cares about other people. I care about people in this way because I do not want them to take a vacation (a bad one, and for

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 24. feb. 2012 04:21, Mark Curtis wrote: Yes of course, we should only ban/allow what you personally find (un)acceptable. That won't cause any problems in an operating system reaching the world with numerous cultures or anything. Also as I said before, *PornView isn't even a pornographic

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Mark Curtis
: joerlend.schins...@gmail.com To: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download On 24. feb. 2012 04:21, Mark Curtis wrote: Yes of course, we should only ban/allow what you

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Listen.. We don't all share the exact same ideas about what's appropriate. One idea we can share, is that if your children are on the internet, you need to pay attention. If you are afraid of the values on the internet and care about your child, well, then you simply can't allow the internet

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Gino Vincenzini
Let me bring some clarity. First of all It's actually the opposite problem with Christianity vs Non-theism as you call it. Everyone is trying to make theism in general and Christianity in particular illegal outside of churches. As for your atheism Jo, I demand you keep it to yourself. I've not

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Ryan Gauger
On 02/23/2012 09:58 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: Listen.. We don't all share the exact same ideas about what's appropriate. One idea we can share, is that if your children are on the internet, you need to pay attention. If you are afraid of the values on the internet and care about your

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 23 February 2012 22:50, Ryan Gauger rtg...@gmail.com wrote: How is it inappropriate that I am trying to turn people's eyes towards Jesus? Jesus can save! He is the most-powerful. We have never had any conversations like this before to my knowledge, so please do not un-subscribe. Fact: Only

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Ryan Gauger
On 02/23/2012 10:02 PM, Gino Vincenzini wrote: Let me bring some clarity. First of all It's actually the opposite problem with Christianity vs Non-theism as you call it. Everyone is trying to make theism in general and Christianity in particular illegal outside of churches. As for your atheism

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 23 February 2012 23:12, Ryan Gauger rtg...@gmail.com wrote: It is the space if Jesus tells me to do so on this mailing list. I am with you, it has nothing to do with the discussion now, but Jesus gives all Christians permission to (and actually tells them to in the Bible) spread the Good

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Ryan Gauger
On 02/23/2012 10:18 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 23 February 2012 23:12, Ryan Gaugerrtg...@gmail.com wrote: It is the space if Jesus tells me to do so on this mailing list. I am with you, it has nothing to do with the discussion now, but Jesus gives all Christians permission to (and actually

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Loris Zinsou
Le 24/02/2012 04:50, Ryan Gauger a écrit : On 02/23/2012 09:34 PM, Loris Zinsou wrote: Le 24/02/2012 04:13, Ryan Gauger a écrit : On 02/23/2012 07:14 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: On 24. feb. 2012 01:53, Colton Allen wrote: So yeah, an app called Porn View showed up while I was demoing

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Bilal Akhtar
The discussion is going crazily off-topic. And, as it appears, the most discussed Ubuntu package so far in 2012 has been pornview. The same discussion has been brought over multiple times, and every time we've had (nearly) the same outcome: implement maturity ratings in Software Center and have

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Ryan Gauger
On 02/23/2012 10:41 PM, Loris Zinsou wrote: Le 24/02/2012 04:50, Ryan Gauger a écrit : On 02/23/2012 09:34 PM, Loris Zinsou wrote: Le 24/02/2012 04:13, Ryan Gauger a écrit : On 02/23/2012 07:14 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: On 24. feb. 2012 01:53, Colton Allen wrote: So yeah, an app called

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Colton Allen
Hey guys, I'd just like to apologize for the mess I've caused. When I started the thread I had no intention of creating such controversy. I'm sorry for the ruckus I've caused and hope we can all treat the problem with the seriousness it deserves. Jo is correct. Offensive is a relative term.

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Alvaro Effenberg0x0 Leal
Discussions on Porn, Children Education, Bible, Religion, Pro vs Anti-USA, Books, etc. In a Unity-Design Mailing List? Is this ML moderated? If so, please, adopt a more strict policy. Just ban everyone who posts anything OT. Everyone is free to shut down the PC, go to a bar, pick someone that

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Josh Strawbridge
you didn't cause this mess and your original post was reasonable.i was also going to post asking if we were currently still going to have the apps available for download bit in the dash and if so suggest it be removed as the space could be better used and it would also have solved the issue

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Evan Huus
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Alvaro Effenberg0x0 Leal effenberg...@gmail.com wrote: Discussions on Porn, Children Education, Bible, Religion, Pro vs Anti-USA, Books, etc. In a Unity-Design Mailing List? Is this ML moderated? If so, please, adopt a more strict policy. Just ban everyone

Re: [Unity-design] Remove Pornographic Apps from the Apps available for download

2012-02-23 Thread Vibhav Pant
Guys please , This is the Unity-Design mailing list for discussing unity and stuff. Please do not make it un-family friendly. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Evan Huus eapa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Alvaro Effenberg0x0 Leal effenberg...@gmail.com wrote: