[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-11-24 Thread vbar
@Ulrich Lukas I agree that only encrypting home, var, tmp.. is a good way to secure personal data while keeping the system fast. @5tan Indeed security is gone if someone unnoticedly gets hardware access and returns modified hardware/software; This is true even if the whole root filesystem is

Re: [Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-11-24 Thread gkey
To me it seems that cryptsetup has two startup scripts (in /etc/init.d): cryptdisks-early cryptdisks AFAIK both read /etc/crypttab and cryptdisks-early reads the 1st line (probably what's needed to boot) and cryptdisks reads the remaining lines. For some reason upstart doesn't wait for the entry

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-11-24 Thread Saïvann Carignan
AFAIK, The reason is that upstart never wait for a task to end before starting another one, unless a task depend on the first task. No task depends on cryptsetup and actually no task should depend on it. However, many tasks depend on root filesystem and won't start until filesystem gets available.

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-11-24 Thread vbar
cryptsetup can't have the power to stop - why not? If I need the filesystems, everything depends on it, so everything else should wait (or at least it should be possible to set that manually). I mean, if I don't set the noauto option in crypttab, I want 'auto' and not manual. -- cryptsetup

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-11-24 Thread Saïvann Carignan
vbar : Giving the ability to a software to freeze the boot can lead to many problems, this is not how upstart works. Upstart let you do it in a very more flexible way as you can define which tasks require each other, which slightly reduce probabilities of boot problems. This concept boost boot

Re: [Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-11-24 Thread Ulrich Lukas
vbar wrote: cryptsetup can't have the power to stop - why not? Because that would interfere with Ubuntu's boot speed ambitions, I recon. I.e. there might be cases (e.g. with key files, RFID-cards etc.) where it might make sense to continue booting while cryptsetup does its work unattendedly.

Re: [Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-11-24 Thread Ulrich Lukas
but the computer does not need other filesystem than root to be mounted to boot correctly, therefore it makes no sense to depend on other filesystems then root. What if any of the essential directories (/var, /home, ...) reside on other filesystems, are mounted onto the root filesystem,

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-11-24 Thread Saïvann Carignan
So, isn't it a solution to simply make root filesystem depend on cryptsetup in cases where interactive input is needed? I.e. when no other (xsplash, key file) method is used? Actually, root filesystem already depends on cryptsetup by design when root partition is encrypted, since it will never

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-11-04 Thread Cédric Dufour
@5tan: Strange, my 'target=...' in '/etc/initramfs/conf.d/cryptroot' IS respected in my two LUKS setups, one on Karmic and the other one still on Jaunty. -- cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/434232 You received this bug notification

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-11-03 Thread GOo
I tried to do an install of karmic amd64 from alternate installation disc with encrypted root, /var, /home, swap partitions on top of a RAID10 fp2 4 disks array. Results are: System boots then xsplash starts asking me for the passphrase of the root partition. I enter the passphrase then I get to

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-10-31 Thread Cédric Dufour
Well, the EXACT (and USB-disk-proof) syntax is: echo 'target=#TARGET#,source=/dev/disk/by-uuid/#UUID#' /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot (thus leading to a '/dev/mapper/#TARGET#' device; otherwise, you get a '/dev/mapper/cryptroot' device) Also, make sure to add the proper modules in

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-10-31 Thread 5tan
Cédric Dufour, You right! In my testing system target is /dev/mapper/cryptroot and it was OK. But when I try change it to anything else... device path is still /dev/mapper/cryptroot source=/dev/SOMETHING (where SOMETHING means something like hda2, sda1, sda2, ...) should also work, but your way

Re: [Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-10-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 03:41:56AM -, Ulrich Lukas wrote: While I admit that that concerns a smaller number of installations, using a non-encrypted root partition with encrypted /home, /tmp, /var is best practice It most certainly is not best practice. -- cryptsetup prompt is overriden

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-10-29 Thread Ulrich Lukas
Thanks for the reply and the workarounds, but please consider that there are systems with custom kernels and without an initramfs. While I admit that that concerns a smaller number of installations, using a non-encrypted root partition with encrypted /home, /tmp, /var is best practice if you run

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-10-29 Thread 5tan
First, I'm sorry for my bad english, but I want help with this cryptsetup problem :) Saïvann Carignan: according to: My /etc/crypttab file contains this : X /dev/sda7 none luks My /etc/fstab file contains this : /dev/mapper/X /media/X ext4 defaults,relatime 0 0 echo

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-10-20 Thread Ulrich Lukas
Hi, Steve, the current situation is unbearable. If I set up my encrypted /home exactly like all the HOWTOs say (i.e. manually after installation), the password prompt is not accessible unless switching back to the first text console. (And even there the password prompt is horribly broken and

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-10-20 Thread Saïvann Carignan
Ulrich Lukas : Please don't change the bug status, Triaged is more appropriate than Confirmed here. As mentionned in previous comments, this bug affect very rare user customisations where the root filesystem does not depend on cryptsetup. In your case, you can easily use a workaround to enjoy

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-09-22 Thread Steve Langasek
As of the latest upload of initramfs-tools, this should be working again, but only by accident: cryptsetup is now setting up usplash unconditionally in the initramfs, whereas it should only do this if it's needed for decrypting the root filesystem or swap. So I'm leaving this bug open since we

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-09-22 Thread Steve Langasek
Having looked into this, it's too much effort to bother with to get usplash /not/ started in initramfs for the case where cryptsetup is not needed for the rootfs; so I'm wontfix'ing this bug for karmic and downgrading it since we effectively will always have usplash already running before reaching

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-09-22 Thread Saïvann Carignan
Steve Langasek : You probably means upstart? Anyway that sounds correct AFAIK, unless there was some easy way to prompt the password through xsplash rather than usplash or console. Since root filesystem does not depend on cryptsetup in this case, upstart does not need to wait on cryptsetup while

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-09-21 Thread Saïvann Carignan
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32180333/Dependencies.txt -- cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/434232 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 434232] Re: cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic

2009-09-21 Thread Saïvann Carignan
Scott James Remnant : subscribed at your request in bug 430496 since it does not seem to be fixed in that situation. -- cryptsetup prompt is overriden by upstart and xsplash in Karmic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/434232 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu