Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2019-08-25 Thread zordaz


This thread does remind me of comparable issues I am having for years
(in fact: since Debian / Ubuntu changed to Upstart and Systemd):
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102220-Xubuntu-14-04-amp-startup-sequence-of-LMS/page2
My current system is Xubuntu 18.04 and LMS 7.9 (Nightly).

I remember experimenting with a delay times, but that didn't work 100%
for me.
My manual workaround is a restart command for LMS in /etc/rc.local.
I don't know if that is a solution for PiCoreplayer systems.

I am still hoping for a permanent solution of course. Haven't found the
time to tinker with Systemd myself.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2019-08-23 Thread bfspider


steff wrote: 
> if your problem can be solved by introducing a delay in the LMS startup
> process at boot... then it would be much more better.

Hi,
What are the steps to add a startup delay for LMS?
Using pcp and nightly build of LMS. 
Thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-28 Thread steff

majones wrote: 
> I'm new to the Rapberry Pi and pCP, and discovered that some of my LMS
> menu items weren't there after a reboot but were after a subsequent
> restart of LMS. I was delighted to discover this fix that meant I didn't
> have to delve into linux! Worked perfectly.

if your problem can be solved by introducing a delay in the LMS startup
process at boot... then it would be much more better.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-28 Thread majones

sbp wrote: 
> Sorry for my late reply. But these commands should work:
>   sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/slimserver stop
>   sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/slimserver start
> 
I'm new to the Rapberry Pi and pCP, and discovered that some of my LMS
menu items weren't there after a reboot but were after a subsequent
restart of LMS. I was delighted to discover this fix that meant I didn't
have to delve into linux! Worked perfectly.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-24 Thread sbp

Thanks for the kind words.
Unfortunately the solution you are using now will need to be redone
after you update pCP,  but now you know how to do it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-24 Thread steff

Paul Webster wrote: 
> He said in this thread ...
> "In the pCP TWEAKS page, I put two commands:"
> which is why I answered like I did.

If talking about me, I am runnining pCP 3.22 + Jivelite on a Rpi3 + the
official 7'' LCD touch.
The problem was: whenever I boot the Rpi3, at the end of the process,
internet radios are not avaialble and become available just after LMS
restart.
The root cause has been identified on a problem on the local DNS that is
my router, but I am not able to solve it.

Inserting 10 second of delay in starting the LMS... seems PERFECT and
for sure much better than stopping and starting again the LMS because in
this way I have also to quit the GUI and reopen it.

pCP is a GREAT piece of solution.

I am now waiting for the DSD native support, not only DoP.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-24 Thread Paul Webster

DJanGo wrote: 
> 
> i dont know, but in another thread he explained he uses some xubuntu and
> i dont knew wehat to believe right now...
> 
> slimserver wouldt work on ubuntu it must be logitechmediaserver unless
> he uses a very very very old version but he also describes 7.8 / 7,.9
> inn the other thread
> 
> 
> I "think" he did his own script or something other funny stuff otherwise
> all these facts didnt make any sense...
> 
> 
> cheers

He said in this thread ...
"In the pCP TWEAKS page, I put two commands:"
which is why I answered like I did.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-24 Thread DJanGo

sbp wrote: 
> Sorry for my late reply. But these commands should work:
>   sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/slimserver stop
>   
>   sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/slimserver start
> 
> The start is initiated in: /home/tc/www/cgi-bin/do_rebootstuff.sh
> You could try to add a pause in front of the LMS starting part.
> 
> Remember to do a backup after you have made your changes to the file,
> otherwise it will not be there after a reboot.

Hi sbp,

i dont know, but in another thread he explained he uses some xubuntu and
i dont knew wehat to believe right now...

slimserver wouldt work on ubuntu it must be logitechmediaserver unless
he uses a very very very old version but he also describes 7.8 / 7,.9
inn the other thread


I "think" he did his own script or something other funny stuff otherwise
all these facts didnt make any sense...


cheers



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-24 Thread steff

sbp wrote: 
> 
> 
> The start is initiated in: /home/tc/www/cgi-bin/do_rebootstuff.sh
> You could try to add a pause in front of the LMS starting part.
> .

Just added 10 seconds of sleep... PERFECT!

I am very happy!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-24 Thread sbp

steff wrote: 
> Great!
> I found it in the meantime by my own and it worked.
> 
> Moreover if you confirm this is the correct way... I thank you and I am
> happy!
> 
> Where is the pCP startup script that is called at the boot and starts
> slimserver?
> Maybe I can just add a delay avoiding to completely stop and restart.
> 
> thanks a lot

Sorry for my late reply. But these commands should work:
sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/slimserver stop

sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/slimserver start

The start is initiated in: /home/tc/www/cgi-bin/do_rebootstuff.sh
You could try to add a pause in front of the LMS starting part.

Remember to do a backup after you have made your changes to the file,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-24 Thread DJanGo

steff wrote: 
> Great!
> I found it in the meantime by my own and it worked.
What other way did you use to start lms before

Make sure your startupscript is the same as 'this'
(https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver-platforms/blob/public/7.9/debian/logitechmediaserver.init)
Thats the real one and its working like it should.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-24 Thread steff

Great!
I found it in the meantime by my own and it worked.

Moreover if you confirm this is the correct way... I thank you and I am
happy!

Where is the pCP startup script that is called at the boot and starts
slimserver?
Maybe I can just add a delay avoiding to completely stop and restart.

thanks a lot



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-24 Thread Paul Webster

Try starting it the way that pCP does it


Code:


  sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/slimserver start
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-23 Thread steff

Dears,

trying to find how to restart LMS, I got this "solution".

In the pCP TWEAKS page, I put two commands:

User commands
User command #1   sudo killall slimserver.pl
User command #2   /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl
--daemon --user tc --group staff

In this way, at the boot, LMS is started by the normal procedure, then
LMS is stopped and then restarted.
I got the startup command looking at the processes running.

The above procedure WORKS!!!

Now finally I have internet radios available, but... there is another
little problem...
if I visit the pCP web GUI, I see LMS stopped, even if everything seems
running correctly.

This is the difference:
when LMS is started by pCP boot process, this is the running process
{slimserver.pl} /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl
--daemon --user tc --group staff

when the process is killed and then restarted, I get this new running
process
/usr/bin/perl /usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl --daemon --user tc
--group staff

any suggestion?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-22 Thread steff

d6jg wrote: 
> I agree.
> 
> EDIT. I am talking wired ethernet. It isn't possible to set a true
> static IP or DNS on the wifi interface.

Is there in this forum someone that can help me\us in:

1) how to set static IP address for a WLAN connection?
There is the feature in the WEB GUI, but only for wired Ethernet

2) write the command to stop\start or restart from command line for
LMS?

3) eventually let me know where is located the script that starts LMS at
boot



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-19 Thread d6jg

Mnyb wrote: 
> The important part is actually the DNS adress , if that is not known to
> the system before LMS starts you get these symptoms.

I agree.
I have seen the issue described with piCorePlayer and LMS.
By default the pCp set up assumes that your DNS server is your router. I
don't think it properly obeys the DHCP server settings in this area.
In the end I solved the issue by giving the Pi a real static IP address
(as opposed to a reservation) and a static DNS address (8.8.8.8)
I recall some debate with the pCp guys about the default being the
router and suggested it be Google.
I could see that DNS was the issue as my Pi booted at epoch every time
as it could not find the NTP server.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-14 Thread steff

No... radio will not show even waiting days... until I restart LMS and
Jivelite
I am using the software as it comes from the official distribution.
Yes,,, telnetting the Rpi3, I can confirm it gest IP and DNS and
gateway, etc.
Yes... 1 interface at a time... it happens even with just the wired Eth
and internal WiFi disabled

my Internet provider is Vodafone and I have a proprietary modem\router.
I can not change the configuration, so... if DHCP is enabled on a
device, it gets as DNS the IP address of the router (same as gateway).
In order to override the default DNS, i have to put it into the device.

I already tried, but seems that using the pCP web interface I can just
forse the static IP on the wired Ethernet and not on the WiFi.

Question 1)
How to force a static IP and DNS using the WLAN?

Question 2, for SBP)
what have I to write in the tweaks page to restart the LMS and to
restart Jivelite?
(if I just restart LMS, I can play radios from the web interface, but no
radio icon on the LCD screen... I need to restart the Jivelite too)

My best regards.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-14 Thread DJanGo

steff wrote: 
> The Rpi3 boots, it gest IP address and DNS address correctly, then mount
> the CIFS shares (so the network is OK), then starts LMS.
> 
> suggestios?

That really could point to the DNS. I dont think that you mount the CIFS
Shares with a Domainname - you mount a IP?

Do you have a internal DNS Server?

Just give the rpi a static IP Adress with the DNS of your ISP and test
again.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-13 Thread sbp

I agree that there is something on your network that is slow. This has
the consequence that when LMS start it is unable to populate the
radiostations.

As a work-around you could make a User command" on the "tweaks page".
The command you supply here will be executed as the last command while
pCP is booting.
In this field you could add a "restart LMS command" and if that isn't
enough you could add a "sleep" first command in order to let pCP wait a
few secunds before restarting LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-13 Thread Mnyb

If you wait a while Radio wont show up eventually ? You should be
running the latest 7.9.1 beta it has some improvements regarding this
behaviour.

Run ifconfig or similar to see if the rpi actually has got ip dns etc .

You only have one network interface running on the pi ?

Workaround.

Make a static network setup with ip dns and gateway etc so that DHCP is
not a factor.
( make sure that the DHCP pool does not include this ip ).




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-13 Thread steff

Mnyb wrote: 
> The important part is actually the DNS adress , if that is not known to
> the system before LMS starts you get these symptoms.

Nice to know.

Looking at the LCD screen during the boot, I can perfectly see that
together the IP address, the DHCP correctly assign the ip of the DNS
server, after that mouts the NAS, then starts the LMS.
This afternoon I got a new Rpi3 to be used for VPN terminator at my home
and I tested a brand new setup of pCP.
I got the very same behaviour.

Supposing my problems can come from my home network, I got a mobile WiFi
hotspot.
I configured the Rpi3 to connect to the WiFi provided by the hotspot
and... IT WORKS !!! Radio available!!!

So... let me recap... hoping some additional suggestions can come.

Connecting the Rpi3 to my home network... wired Ethernet... embedded
WiFi... Edimax WiFi USB dongle... radio are not available
The Rpi3 boots, it gest IP address and DNS address correctly, then mount
the CIFS shares (so the network is OK), then starts LMS

Connecting the Rpi3 to a mobile WiFi hotspot... radio works.

The problem is that I have a huge number of devices @ my home working on
my network without any issue (Playstation, TV, Sky box, iPad, Samsung
smartphones and tablet, two HP Proliant servers, the alarm system,
etc)
So I can not confirm it is problem of my switches and router...
pobably a problem of "inter-compatibility" between the Rpi3+pCP+my
network.

suggestios?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-12 Thread Mnyb

The important part is actually the DNS adress , if that is not known to
the system before LMS starts you get these symptoms.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-11 Thread steff

Looking at the log, when my Ri3 boots, it first connect to the network
(yes, WiFi), it gets the IP address from the DHCP where is its
reservation, THEN LMS starts.

So... I can confirm the LMS starts AFTER the Rpi3 got the IP address.

I tried to put a radio station in the auto start, as suggested and of
course after the boot the radio start playing. Always.

I have several radio stations in my favourite list and these can be
played, always.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-11 Thread DJanGo

steff wrote: 
> Funny :-).

Wasnt that funny if you just believe two guys who told you the same and
would answer one of them.

So what to do?

  
- You must trust us
- You could try what i already told you (using triodes plugin)
- You could wrote your own startupscript but that might get lost after
  a update



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-11 Thread DJanGo

steff wrote: 
> Funny :-)
> Trying to be again serious:
> 

I am serious
i am a multiple certificated Network & Server engineer

LMS / its startupscript only waits for a Network Adapter to be up - that
doesnt mean it got a ip or got a connection!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-11 Thread Man in a van

Stef, have you tried this tweak?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-11 Thread steff

DJanGo wrote: 
> Did you ever add a passprase to use a Lan Network?
> 
> Another question:
> 
> Are you able to wake up your PC over Lan ?
> Why you re not able to wake it up over WLAN?

Funny :-)

Do you mean that LMS waits for the wired Ethernet to starts but starts
even if WLAN is not connected?

Trying to be again serious:
1) when my Rpi3 boots, LMS automatically starts
2) radios are (most of times) not avaialble
3) stop and start again manually the LMS solves the problem

what is and where is the "trigger" to let radios be enabled or not?

P.S.:LMS does not wait for any network before to start. Even if I
disable WiFi and do not plug any wired Ethernet and store my music on a
USB local drive, LMS starts and I can play music.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-11 Thread DJanGo

steff wrote: 
> If LMS depends on network, why then LMS starts even if the (very very
> slow to start) WLAN is not started?

Did you ever add a passprase to use a Lan Network?

Another question:

Are you able to wake up your PC over Lan ?
Why you re not able to wake it up over WLAN?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-11 Thread steff

DJanGo wrote: 
> quite simple
> 
> LMS is owned by a service thats waiting for "the (a) Network"
> WLAN is a special Network thats starting very very late.
> 
> I dont know PCP but i think there is a way to disable the squeezelite
> portion.
> Triode build a very very good Plugin called localplayer.
> That plugin ist started from lms and does nothing else than starting a
> squeezelite session.
> 
> You can also change the binary from that plugin to a later one.

If LMS depends on network, why then LMS starts even if the (very very
slow to start) WLAN is not started?
The problem in my setup is that LMS automatically starts at boot every
time, but most of times radios are not available until I RESTART LMS



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-11 Thread DJanGo

steff wrote: 
> Why do not use WiFi if LMS is running on the device? Why not?


quite simple

LMS is owned by a service thats waiting for "the (a) Network"
WLAN is a special Network thats starting very very late.

I dont know PCP but i think there is a way to disable the squeezelite
portion.
Triode build a very very good Plugin called localplayer.
That plugin ist started from lms and does nothing else than starting a
squeezelite session.

You can also change the binary from that plugin to a later one.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-11 Thread steff

mherger wrote: 
> > whenever I boot my Rpi3 running pCP (with Jivelite and the touch
> > screen), radios are almost never available.
> 
> Is LMS running on the same Pi? What kind of network connection are you 
> using? The symptoms you're describing would likely happen if LMS was 
> started before the network connection was up. Don't use wlan if you're 
> running LMS on the device.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

- YES, LMS is running side by side with all the other software on the
very same Rpi3
- Almost everyone is saying that this happens because LMS started before
network was up, but keep in mind:
the problem occurrs most of time, not always
the problems occurrs with both embedded WiFi, WiFi provided by
additional USB - WiFi dongle and wired Ethernert as well
- Why do not use WiFi if LMS is running on the device? Why not?
Keep in mind that with an additional USB WiFi dongle (Edimax 5 Ghz),
without additional drivers, my Rpi3 is capable of streaming to the USB
DAC 384 kHz PCM pulling FLAC from a NAS with WiFi without any pops or
glitches... just perfect

For all the above, I am asking how to delay the LMS start or restart it
from the LCD touch etc.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

2018-01-10 Thread Michael Herger

whenever I boot my Rpi3 running pCP (with Jivelite and the touch
screen), radios are almost never available.


Is LMS running on the same Pi? What kind of network connection are you 
using? The symptoms you're describing would likely happen if LMS was 
started before the network connection was up. Don't use wlan if you're 
running LMS on the device.


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