[Ur] A direction for Ur/Web

2011-03-26 Thread Gergely Buday
Hi there, I was talking with Adam about the following: there is a range of systems on how to create a website, starting from a simple Wordpress install through a php-hacked one and a Drupal site to an industrial site developed with Django or Ruby on Rails. It would be nice to have a

Re: [Ur] A direction for Ur/Web

2011-03-26 Thread Adam Chlipala
Marc Weber wrote: a) I talked to Adam in the past about whether its worth adding a configuration file containing database setup. See http://www.impredicative.com/mantis/view.php?id=26 I think it's important to stress that Ur/Web already supports configuration files governing database

Re: [Ur] A direction for Ur/Web

2011-03-26 Thread Marc Weber
Excerpts from Adam Chlipala's message of Sat Mar 26 18:56:48 +0100 2011: I don't understand which hypothetical design structure of an Ur/Web library you are considering here. What do you want to do and what do you think would go wrong? If you use PHP, Ruby, Plone, any dynamic CMS you have a

Re: [Ur] A direction for Ur/Web

2011-03-26 Thread Karn Kallio
What about a wiki page ? SASS/HAML could be implemented as well. It looks like it doesn't make sense to implement all features of haml-lang.com. But most of its syntax is much nicer to write. I do not think that HAML or SASS add any abstractions that Ur/Web with a full CSS support would not

Re: [Ur] A direction for Ur/Web

2011-03-26 Thread Gian Perrone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gentlemen, On 3/26/11 6:51 PM, Marc Weber wrote: The low entry point can only be achieved by - teaching its theory (eg give hints about which books to read) - write many tutorials. To this end, I finally got around to starting something I've been

Re: [Ur] A direction for Ur/Web

2011-03-26 Thread Adam Chlipala
Marc Weber wrote: Excerpts from Adam Chlipala's message of Sat Mar 26 18:56:48 +0100 2011: I don't understand which hypothetical design structure of an Ur/Web library you are considering here. What do you want to do and what do you think would go wrong? If you use PHP, Ruby, Plone,

Re: [Ur] A direction for Ur/Web

2011-03-26 Thread Adam Chlipala
Karn Kallio wrote: Well, some similar fuzzy brainstorming that has occurred to me before: To have safely tweakable themes Ur/Web could represent them as types in some way. That probably means Ur/Web will have to represent CSS too. To naturally support user changes of themes at run time then

Re: [Ur] A direction for Ur/Web

2011-03-26 Thread Adam Chlipala
Karn Kallio wrote: What about a wiki page ? SASS/HAML could be implemented as well. It looks like it doesn't make sense to implement all features of haml-lang.com. But most of its syntax is much nicer to write. I do not think that HAML or SASS add any abstractions that Ur/Web with a full