New beta (1.0b9) of lcTaskList plugin

2012-06-04 Thread Bill Vlahos
I've uploaded a new beta of lcTaskList that replaces the ListMagic table object with a native LiveCode table object so the conflicts with Valentina and other programs should be eliminated. This new version also displays line numbers and is slightly faster. There are other features and bug

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-06-04 Thread John Craig
MobGUI is being updated, but I've not much time at the moment due to a contract I'm working on, so progress is unfortunately slower than I'd like and I don't have time to read the use list. I'll post an update when more information is available. Best regards, John.

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-06-04 Thread Matthias Rebbe
John, at least you could either answer the questions posted over your support system or if that is not possible, put the support system offline. It makes no sense to offer a support system where the support requests are not answered. Regards, Matthias Am 04.06.2012 um 10:50 schrieb John

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-06-04 Thread Mike Kerner
I get that John is busy with other priorities, but it has been over three months. I too have very old support requests that are unanswered, even after promises of action. I'm sure that if John would open MG up to others to help from the outside there are many of us that would. -- On the first

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: The drafting table orientation has been optimal for long work sessions for centuries, so it seems inevitable that as computer form factors continue to diversify we'll see an increasing number of those. An iMac

Re: Another 5-out-5 review for LC!

2012-06-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Personally, I'm a big fan of separating code and data so always use external storage for the data in my applications, be it a flat file or a database. However, that entails learning how to access files efficiently and/or

Re: Recreating complex interfaces and/or field formatting on preOpenCard

2012-06-04 Thread Kay C Lan
I too would like to see if anyone has done some amazing things with the new field features. My own work with them have been nothing more than rudimentary tests. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Pining for HC at huffingtonpost

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Kann
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-pavley/hypercard-bridge-over-digital-divide_b_1564867.html Last line: If you developed a stack or two way back when, I'd love to hear about your experiences or what you would do if something like HyperCard was available today.

Re: Pining for HC at huffingtonpost

2012-06-04 Thread Colin Holgate
I posted something, though it was a struggle. Their account create dialog is not very compatible with Safari, I had to use Chrome to be able to register. Posts need to be approved, so my comment isn't there yet. On Jun 4, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Michael Kann mikek...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: Pining for HC at huffingtonpost

2012-06-04 Thread René Micout
I also post a link to runrev, but nothing for now in the comments... Le 4 juin 2012 à 14:51, Colin Holgate a écrit : I posted something, though it was a struggle. Their account create dialog is not very compatible with Safari, I had to use Chrome to be able to register. Posts need to be

Re: 'send' and behaviors

2012-06-04 Thread Ken Ray
I think from what I've been told (but I really am still studying it) that this is just plain impossible in LC; so I need to rewrite the handlers in the behaviors to be more context-aware, possibly using the techniques suggested. It's not really that hard, but it doesn't have the generality

RE: New beta (1.0b9) of lcTaskList plug-in

2012-06-04 Thread Ralph DiMola
Bill, FYI In the last version, preopencard was getting weirded out by lcTaskList. A visual effect was not working and debugged it down to the pass preopencard in the main stack. If I do not pass preopencard then the visual effect works. I then closed lcTaskList and the problem went away.

Re: 'send' and behaviors

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Samuel
Thanks Dar - I guess your 'A' is the way to go, and I'm doing it (more or less). I don't see how to do 'B' in a way that very simply returns control to the original caller (CardX) without extra code in the handler asking do I have to go back to CardX or not?, which I think would be even more

Re: Licensing selling an Android app

2012-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richard Miller wrote: The question I have (not owning an Android device myself), is if we post an apk at our web site, will the average Android owner be able to install it? Not by default. As with the Amazon app store and other non-Google outlets, the user will have to turn on the checkbox

Re: Message order of mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp

2012-06-04 Thread Ken Ray
on mouseUp wait 20 If you're going to wait, I would suggest not using a hard-coded constant but instead use the 'doubleClickInterval' global property (as in wait the doubleClickInterval milliseconds), as it gets the time based on the user's OS settings for double-click speed. I have a

Re: Recreating complex interfaces and/or field formatting on preOpenCard

2012-06-04 Thread Ken Ray
On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi all, Today, reading the message of Kay C. Lan about using cards in this platform: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2012-June/173131.html I noticed that my knowledge about this platform needs a welcome update, so I am

Re: [OT] Repository of Movies in hundreds of formats

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Ick. Bob On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Richmond wrote: http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/V-codecs/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: [LiveCodeServer / on-Rev] SqlLite - Insert…. very slow

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
You should wrap it first before you warp it. Time travel has been known to rewrite code in some pretty random ways. Bob On Jun 2, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Mathias, You should warp your INSERT command in an SQLite transaction.

Re: [LiveCodeServer / on-Rev] SqlLite - Insert…. very slow

2012-06-04 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Ah, now i do understand why i got such a performance improvement. It has finished before it began. ;) Matthias Am 04.06.2012 um 17:50 schrieb Bob Sneidar: You should wrap it first before you warp it. Time travel has been known to rewrite code in some pretty random ways. Bob On Jun

Re: Pining for HC at huffingtonpost

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
As did I. Bob On Jun 4, 2012, at 5:51 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: I posted something, though it was a struggle. Their account create dialog is not very compatible with Safari, I had to use Chrome to be able to register. Posts need to be approved, so my comment isn't there yet. On Jun

Re: Message order of mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Are you handling MouseUp somewhere else in the message path? If not, then just let it pass. Bob On Jun 3, 2012, at 7:40 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: I have a button that has handlers for mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp. If the user double clicks the button the mouseUp always gets handled before the

Re: Recreating complex interfaces and/or field formatting on preOpenCard

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Seems counterintuitive doesn't it? Do some stuff on a card before ever opening it? It's like saying drive to the store and get some milk before unlocking the driver side door. ;-) Usually with a preOpenCard handler, if I want to hide what I am doing from my user, I just lock the screen or

Re: New beta (1.0b9) of lcTaskList plugin

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Bill. Good news! My problems with lcTaskList have gone away. So far I just opened my application and navigated around with lcTaskList open. In the past this was enough to get my app to break. I would get display weirdness where a stack wouldn't even display, or else only partially draw. More

SoCal User Group meeting Thursday

2012-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Just a reminder for those in SoCal that the next LiveCode user group meeting will be in Pasadena on Thursday, June 7 - details here: http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=50t=11875 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for

Re: Message order of mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp

2012-06-04 Thread dunbarx
Bob. The problem is two separate actions that are rather too intimately married; mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp. The engine is just not discriminating these reliably, and in a way, I cannot blame it. To work unambiguously, it would have to always wait for the doubeClickInterval to time out to

Re: Message order of mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp

2012-06-04 Thread Bill Vlahos
Bob, In the just released beta of lcTaskList I have an action that if the user clicks on the header it does a sort by that column. If they double-click on the header then I want it to auto-resize the column like you can do in Excel. The problem is that there are both mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp

Re: SoCal User Group meeting Thursday

2012-06-04 Thread Bill Vlahos
I'll see you there. Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. lcTaskList: (http://www.infowallet.com/lctasklist/index.htm) On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Just a

Re: Message order of mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp

2012-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bill Vlahos wrote: After just checking the way Excel does it I had it wrong. If you double-click on the column divider it resizes the column. I can implement that. It's been many years since I've used Excel, but when I did I resized columns by just dragging the column divider to the desired

Re: [OT] Repository of Movies in hundreds of formats

2012-06-04 Thread stephen barncard
this is a fantastic resource. Why 'ICK', Bob? thanks Richmond, the link is going into my Script Scrapbook. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Ick. Bob On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Richmond wrote: http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/V-codecs/

Re: Pining for HC at huffingtonpost

2012-06-04 Thread stephen barncard
What I don't get is that these supposedly tech-savvy writers don't do simple web research and discover the big elephant in the room (LC Revolution) in the first place. This last one didn't even mention Supercard. Not great journalism, IMHO. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about

Re: Message order of mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp

2012-06-04 Thread Bill Vlahos
It fits the content. When you drag it you can't always know what the right size is. Bill Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Bill Vlahos wrote: After just checking the way Excel does it I had it wrong. If you double-click on

Re: Converting a Stack to many formats starting from XML

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Alejandro Tejada capellan2000@... writes: So, my question could be stated in this form: Have you written a specific Stack to XML script to convert a stack to another file format? Yes, but... I've done stack-to-xml and various xml-to-stack conversions before, but they're *very* specific to

Re: Message order of mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Haworth
I ran into this mouseUp/DOubleUp issue a year or so ago, in fact I think one of the links to the archives was to the discussion that started. I'm wondering if there might be an opportunity here to experiment with something that is now commonplace on iThings/Androids and that is the long press.

Re: Licensing selling an Android app

2012-06-04 Thread Richard Miller
Hi Richard, Our main reason for not wanting to use Google Play is that the vast majority of our customers will find our app through our site, which is well known in our sector. We'd be giving away 30% of a $10 app for little return. On 6/4/2012 10:12 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richard

Re: Message order of mouseUp and mouseDoubleUp

2012-06-04 Thread dunbarx
Training? My brain would fry. This could be implemented, but I would rather handle it the old fashioned way. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 4:05 pm Subject: Re: Message

Re: [OT] Repository of Movies in hundreds of formats

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Too doggone many. I had no idea there were that many. If I had to write a player that accepted all those I would just give up. Bob On Jun 4, 2012, at 11:50 AM, stephen barncard wrote: this is a fantastic resource. Why 'ICK', Bob? thanks Richmond, the link is going into my Script

Re: Pining for HC at huffingtonpost

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Typical of journalism these days. A lot of journalists don't research very well, I think because it has apparently become acceptable to write a small disclaimer or retraction buried on some obscure page nobody reads, once it becomes fairly common public knowledge that the journalist screwed up.

Re: [OT] Repository of Movies in hundreds of formats

2012-06-04 Thread stephen barncard
It's just a reference to all the formats that ever were - with examples for testing. One never know what one might run into for a project. I wouldn't try to be compatible with most of these. m4v / h264 serves most of my web needs, and FLV when I really have to. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Bob

[OT] Lion Update

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Haworth
After being on Lion for about a week now, things seem to be settling down somewhat. I'm getting far less spinning beachballs. When I do get them, they seem to be related to either Time Machine doing a backup or clicking on the window of an application that I haven't used for a while. The Time

DATAGRID: slow scrolling even in the IDE

2012-06-04 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, for an iOS app i need the possibility to show several records, each with one image and 4 text fields. I am now experimenting in the ide to find out how to do that. I thought a datagrid form might be the right solution for that. The following happens in the ide. I did not try under iOS,

Re: DATAGRID: slow scrolling even in the IDE

2012-06-04 Thread Ken Corey
On 04/06/2012 22:52, Matthias Rebbe wrote: for an iOS app i need the possibility to show several records, each with one image and 4 text fields. I am now experimenting in the ide to find out how to do that. I thought a datagrid form might be the right solution for that. The following happens

Re: [OT] Lion Update

2012-06-04 Thread Jerry Jensen
Pete, If you haven't done it since you installed Lion, you may wish to start a new Time Machine backup. If all the old Snow Leopard system files are still in that backup, its having to look through all bazillion of them to decide what to do. You can keep the old backup on the same disk if you

Re: DATAGRID: slow scrolling even in the IDE

2012-06-04 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Yes your right, but to explain more precisely. My ios app shall fetch data from a local sqlite database. This data contains also the URL to an image. The fetched data shall be displayed immediately in the form. it could happen that about 200 records have to be put in the datagrid. If i have to

Re: [OT] Lion Update

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Jerry, Not worried about the RAM, it's cheap as you say. I've been thinking about starting afresh with Time Machine. I don't have enough room to start a second partition for the new backup so I'll just have to wipe the disk and start over. I guess I'll just leave it running overnight and

Re: DATAGRID: slow scrolling even in the IDE

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Someone will correct me if I am wrong, but datagrids do not work that way. Only the visible rows are loaded and if I am not mistaken, one prior row and one trailing row. This means that if you scroll away, then re-scroll, the datagrid is going to reload that data. I think some kind of

on-rev hacked

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Wieder
It was pointed out to me over the weekend (thanks Mark!) that my on-rev website had been hit by a bot that did two things: replaced my .htaccess file with an empty (zero-length) one, and inserted a javascript pointing to thesalivan.com right after the body tag in all the .html and .htm files.

Re: DATAGRID: slow scrolling even in the IDE

2012-06-04 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Bob, ah that make sense. I will try to implement a switch in the FillinData Handler of the row behavior of the Datagrid. Maybe that solves it. Thanks for the hint. I was not aware, that the data is reloaded each time it is shown. But sounds reasonable. Regards, Matthias Am 05.06.2012 um

Re: on-rev hacked

2012-06-04 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Mark, thanks for the info. Maybe http://perishablepress.com/5g-blacklist-2012/ is of use for you and other´s. This solution was mentioned on the list last year by Andre, if i remember right. I am using that since then in the hope it prevents my account from being hacked. Regards, Matthias

OFF TOPIC: MaKey MaKey

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Rauterkus
Hi, This is a Kickstart project. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joylabs/makey-makey-an-invention-kit-for-everyone Looks very kwel. With LiveCode, it could be a hoot and a half. Put one of those in a bundle. -- Ta. Mark Rauterkus       mark.rauter...@gmail.com PPS Summer Dreamers' Swim

Re: on-rev hacked

2012-06-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Mark, Do you have a potential idea of how the hacking occurred? Were you using any popular PHP FOSS there? I've seen hackings such as this happen thru Wordpress exploitation. Any idea how it happened? Cheers andre On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: It

Re: OFF TOPIC: MaKey MaKey

2012-06-04 Thread Shawn Blc
I saw MakeyMakey last night on KS. Awesome! On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Mark Rauterkus mark.rauter...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, This is a Kickstart project. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joylabs/makey-makey-an-invention-kit-for-everyone Looks very kwel. With LiveCode, it could be a

Re: on-rev hacked

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
I would also be interested if your SQL server (not sure if you use it) was accessed. That would REALLY suck. I don't have any web sites there, so I think I am clear, so long as this was not a pervasive breach of lots of account logins. Bob On Jun 4, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

Re: on-rev hacked

2012-06-04 Thread Pierre Sahores
Good reminder. In my experience, 5G Blacklist 2012 is a must, trustable and usable with great satisfaction. Le 5 juin 2012 à 01:11, Matthias Rebbe a écrit : Mark, thanks for the info. Maybe http://perishablepress.com/5g-blacklist-2012/ is of use for you and other´s. This solution was

RE: New beta (1.0b9) of lcTaskList plugin

2012-06-04 Thread Ralph DiMola
Bill, I can confirm that the bug that stopped the visual effect when lcTaskList was passed the preopen message is fixed! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com

Re: SoCal User Group meeting Thursday

2012-06-04 Thread Paul Looney
Chris, Are you getting these invites? PL On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Just a reminder for those in SoCal that the next LiveCode user group meeting will be in Pasadena on Thursday, June 7 - details here: http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=50t=11875 --

Re: Licensing selling an Android app

2012-06-04 Thread Richard Miller
Thanks Jacqueline Shawn, I did more testing at Verizon, and it seems several of these methods work reliably and can be mastered by most Android owners. Richard On 6/3/2012 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/3/12 5:16 PM, Richard Miller wrote: Are you certain that this works this easily

Re: on-rev hacked

2012-06-04 Thread Nicolas Cueto
Some advice about how to implement this? The instructions at 5G Black say this: To install the 5G Firewall, append the following code to your site’s root .htaccess: I'm unsure what directory is indicated by your site's root. Does root mean my public_html directory? Or is some Apache-server

Re: on-rev hacked

2012-06-04 Thread Tim Selander
Thanks for the heads up. My sites seem to be okay... which server are you on? Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 6/5/12 7:57 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: It was pointed out to me over the weekend (thanks Mark!) that my on-rev website had been hit by a bot that did two things: replaced my .htaccess file

Re: on-rev hacked

2012-06-04 Thread Shawn Blc
root would be home/username/ * that's where you'd put your .htaccess file On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Tim Selander selan...@tkf.att.ne.jp wrote: Thanks for the heads up. My sites seem to be okay... which server are you on? Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 6/5/12 7:57 AM, Mark Wieder

Re: New beta (1.0b9) of lcTaskList plugin

2012-06-04 Thread Bill Vlahos
Bob, Excellent. Thanks for letting me know. Bill Vlahos On Jun 4, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi Bill. Good news! My problems with lcTaskList have gone away. So far I just opened my application and navigated around with lcTaskList open. In the past this was enough to get my app

Re: New beta (1.0b9) of lcTaskList plugin

2012-06-04 Thread Bill Vlahos
Ralph, Great. Thanks for letting me know. Bill Vlahos On Jun 4, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Bill, I can confirm that the bug that stopped the visual effect when lcTaskList was passed the preopen message is fixed! Ralph DiMola ___

Re: Recreating complex interfaces and/or field formatting on preOpenCard

2012-06-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote: Not sure if that's still available for download, but if not, maybe RunRev could post it on RevOnline or on their site... Thanks Ken, I PM'd Heather to see if that would be possible.