Re: Be This Guy

2013-10-13 Thread Curry Kenworthy
'dumb everything down to the stage where its just simply insulting' school of thought Richmond, I've been in lurk mode temporarily but this post drew me out. From prognathous to mall-rats, heroin, and Steve Martin, it's classic. Beyond dis/agree; either way it's a blast. Along that line,

Re: Be This Guy

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 04:17 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: Anybody CAN learn how to program with many languages (BASIC is another one that comes to mind), but that doesn't mean you can learn to do it well. I think that is a very important distinction. We used to have this same sort of debate on the HC

Re: Be This Guy

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 06:23 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mike Kerner wrote: Anyone can write a novel, too, by the way. That doesn't demean the knowledge of folks who are experts using it. That's a typewriter usability issue. Once typewriter designers care enough about end-users to improve things,

Re: Be This Guy

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 09:11 AM, Curry Kenworthy wrote: 'dumb everything down to the stage where its just simply insulting' school of thought Richmond, I've been in lurk mode temporarily but this post drew me out. From prognathous to mall-rats, heroin, and Steve Martin, it's classic. Beyond

Re: Be This Guy

2013-10-13 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. :) Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Is Pancake down or is it lust me?

2013-10-13 Thread Keith Clarke
Hi folks, Is anyone with an on-rev account on Pancake having difficulties at the moment? I've lost http ftp access to my on-rev account and company website in an add-on domain - though I still have c-panel access? Best, Keith.. ___ use-livecode

Re: Is Pancake down or is it lust me?

2013-10-13 Thread Keith Clarke
…just heard from RunRev / On-rev support that there is indeed a pancake issue…thereby opening the door to Sunday breakfast pancake puns! ;-) Best, Keith.. On 13 Oct 2013, at 11:24, Keith Clarke keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk wrote: Hi folks, Is anyone with an on-rev account on Pancake

Re: Be This Guy - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, where the boats are bobbing uselessly in the swell. Hi Richmond, and anybody interested in the recent Livecode publicity. I know somebody who sends and receives a handful of mails in a good week (THAT is expensive !) I know somebody who has a golf bag full of

[ANN] Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner - Status Update

2013-10-13 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi everyone, Soon, we will be shipping books again. I think I should inform you about the current status of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner. We have only 50 books left and we expect to sell out before the end of the year. If you are thinking about ordering a book as a Christmas or

Tio on-rev server down?

2013-10-13 Thread Martin Koob
About an hour ago I noticed that my sites on the Tio on-rev server were down. Have others noticed this? I sent and emergency support request in but haven't heard back yet. I guess with pancake being down too I am in the queue. Martin -- View this message in context:

Re: Tio on-rev server down?

2013-10-13 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi Martin, it seems that this is an on-rev wide problem (not only tio) and that only accounts with dedicacted ip-addresses are affected. Support is already working on this problem. Regards, Matthias Am 13.10.2013 um 14:45 schrieb Martin Koob mk...@rogers.com: About an hour ago I noticed

Re: Be This Guy - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread Antti Ilola
2013/10/13 Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.fr I I was lamenting about the demise of an indispensible (to me !) product called HYPERCARD, when I stumbled across REVOLUTION, and life began all over again. I agree definitely! -Antti ___

Re: Tio on-rev server down?

2013-10-13 Thread Ian Wood
As my registered Runrev email address is (somewhat stupidly) hosted on on-rev I've not even heard back from support, so it's good to hear that it's not just me. Still bleeping irritating though. Ian On 13 Oct 2013, at 14:04, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi Martin, it seems that this is an

Re: Tio on-rev server down?

2013-10-13 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Am 13.10.2013 um 16:07 schrieb Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk: As my registered Runrev email address is (somewhat stupidly) hosted on on-rev I've not even heard back from support, so it's good to hear that it's not just me. Still bleeping irritating though. Yes, that is indeed

Re: Tio on-rev server down?

2013-10-13 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Am 13.10.2013 um 16:07 schrieb Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk: As my registered Runrev email address is (somewhat stupidly) hosted on on-rev I've not even heard back from support, so I am still able to send and receive emails. What smtp server are you using. If you use

Re: Tio on-rev server down?

2013-10-13 Thread Ian Wood
One of my sites is a web store. No dedicated IP address = no security certificate = no secure checkout = no customers. Ian On 13 Oct 2013, at 15:17, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Yes, that is indeed irritating. This is the third time that the static ip-blocks are not working. The past 2 times

Re: Be This Guy

2013-10-13 Thread Mike Kerner
ick. ANYBODY but Steinbeck. I'd rather be Dickens, first. On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Mike Kerner wrote: Anyone can write a novel, too, by the way. That doesn't demean the knowledge of folks who are experts using it. That's a

Re: Tio on-rev server down?

2013-10-13 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Am 13.10.2013 um 16:23 schrieb Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk: One of my sites is a web store. No dedicated IP address = no security certificate = no secure checkout = no customers. Yes sounds reasonable. We too have an online shop, but without payment process. We are only selling to

Re: Tio on-rev server down?

2013-10-13 Thread Ian Wood
On 13 Oct 2013, at 15:21, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Am 13.10.2013 um 16:07 schrieb Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk: As my registered Runrev email address is (somewhat stupidly) hosted on on-rev I've not even heard back from support, so I am still able to send and receive emails.

Re: Tio on-rev server down?

2013-10-13 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Using imap here. Matthias Am 13.10.2013 um 16:40 schrieb Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk: On 13 Oct 2013, at 15:21, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Am 13.10.2013 um 16:07 schrieb Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk: As my registered Runrev email address is (somewhat stupidly) hosted on

Re: Is Pancake down or is it lust me?

2013-10-13 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi Keith - as of 17:22 UK time my pancake websites are up fine ... so the 'issue' has been resolved? Dave -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Is-Pancake-down-or-is-it-lust-me-tp4670965p4670980.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list

Re: Trapping for mouseDown on the desktop on a Mac

2013-10-13 Thread Ken Ray
How about going into a polling mode, checking the dragData[files] every second or so... it should start out empty, but as soon as the user starts to drag a file from the desktop, it should have something in it. Just a thought, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software On Oct 12, 2013, at 11:25 AM,

Re: Be This Guy

2013-10-13 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hugh I like your mis-quote so much I'm going to steal it as my signature (obviously attributed...) FlexibleLearning.com wrote Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. :) Hugh Senior FLCo -- View this message in context:

Re: Be This Guy

2013-10-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Sunday, October 13, 2013, 12:30:10 AM, you wrote: Anyone can code rather like any European can speak Mandarin Chinese; with an incredible amount of effort, time and instruction. True, but I think it misses the point somewhat. I haven't seen the ad in question, so I can't comment on

Re: Is Pancake down or is it lust me?

2013-10-13 Thread Keith Clarke
Hi Dave, I'm glad to hear you're service is OK - so maybe there are finally signs of progress, as a 10-hour outage is bad, even on a Sunday. No joy here yet for ftp or web - I just hope my dedicated IP address is in the queue for reinstatement :-( Best, Keith.. On 13 Oct 2013, at 17:23, Dave

Re: Trapping for mouseDown on the desktop on a Mac

2013-10-13 Thread dunbarx
Or another polling thing, if this helps at all: on mouseUp checkForMouseDown end mouseUp on checkForMouseDown if the mouse is down then answer Mouse is down exit to top end if --doSomeProcess checkForMouseDown end checkForMouseDown Now when you run this and click

Re: Be This Guy - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
This was very well written. I want a 5-legged sheep. :) On 10/13/13 6:43 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, where the boats are bobbing uselessly in the swell. Hi Richmond, and anybody interested in the recent Livecode publicity. I know somebody who sends and

Re: Trapping for mouseDown on the desktop on a Mac

2013-10-13 Thread dunbarx
Probably should have a delay so the recursion limit does not kick in right away: on checkForMouseDown wait 10 if the mouse is down then answer Mouse is down exit to top end if --doSomeProcess checkForMouseDown end checkForMouseDown -Original Message- From:

Re: Is Pancake down or is it lust me?

2013-10-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Keith- Sunday, October 13, 2013, 10:14:01 AM, you wrote: No joy here yet for ftp or web - I just hope my dedicated IP address is in the queue for reinstatement :-( I believe pancakes go in a stack rather than a queue. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: Be This Guy

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 08:02 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Sunday, October 13, 2013, 12:30:10 AM, you wrote: Anyone can code rather like any European can speak Mandarin Chinese; with an incredible amount of effort, time and instruction. True, but I think it misses the point somewhat. I haven't

Re: Be This Guy - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 09:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: This was very well written. I want a 5-legged sheep. :) On 10/13/13 6:43 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, where the boats are bobbing uselessly in the swell. Hi Richmond, and anybody interested in the recent Livecode

Re: Is Pancake down or is it lust me?

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 09:40 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Keith- Sunday, October 13, 2013, 10:14:01 AM, you wrote: No joy here yet for ftp or web - I just hope my dedicated IP address is in the queue for reinstatement :-( I believe pancakes go in a stack rather than a queue. I'm lusting for a pancake.

Re: Trapping for mouseDown on the desktop on a Mac

2013-10-13 Thread Paul Hibbert
Ken, I don't think you even need to go into a polling mode, as soon as user drags an item onto a stack it triggers a 'dragMove' message so trapping that should work on both platforms. Tried a few tests with a small stack and tackling the problem from a different angle seems to do the trick on

Re: Be This Guy - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread Pierre Sahores
@Richmond, Doctor Scott Raney works went so important for all of us, Runrev included even if Metacard did this amazing so sweet and incredible smart Creator so lazy to the end, just before Kevin purposed to Scott to push MC ahead, as we today all know, lots more higher most of us expected it

Re: Be This Guy - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 10:26 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: @Richmond, Doctor Scott Raney works went so important for all of us, Runrev included even if Metacard did this amazing so sweet and incredible smart Creator so lazy to the end, just before Kevin purposed to Scott to push MC ahead, as we today all

Re: Is Pancake down or is it lust me?

2013-10-13 Thread Marty Knapp
It's a good thing On-Rev has new servers, or else there would be like . . . problems and stuff . . . All my sites have been down for 4 hours that I know of (pancake) and probably a lot longer than that. The last time this happened to me, it was almost 2 days before I was back online. But be

Re: Is Pancake down or is it lust me?

2013-10-13 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Am 13.10.2013 um 22:03 schrieb Marty Knapp martyknapps...@gmail.com: It's a good thing On-Rev has new servers, or else there would be like . . . problems and stuff . . . All my sites have been down for 4 hours that I know of (pancake) and probably a lot longer than that. The last time

Re: Is Pancake down or is it lust me?

2013-10-13 Thread Keith Clarke
…well my sites have finally come back up, but the web site migration I was in the middle of - before pancake went down for nearly 12 hours - has now triggered a hosting migration plan for the near future. I have access to another VPS, so it looks like my On-Rev account is going to become

Re: Is Pancake down or is it lust me?

2013-10-13 Thread Kevin Miller
It does appear that we did have an outage that affected a very limited number of accounts today. Support responded immediately and everything is back up and running now. I can only apologize. We've invested very heavily in our new server infrastructure to provide a better, faster and above all

Re: Android SDK Path Again

2013-10-13 Thread Scott Rossi
OK, I used a later version of LC to see the Android SDK which seems to work. I can kind of get emulators launched and test a basic stack. Latest issue is getting LC 6.1.1 to see an attached hardware device to test on. I have a 7 tablet running Android 4.1.1, on which I have enabled USB

Re: Be this guy

2013-10-13 Thread Peter Hermsen
I count myself among the many other LC users who program in multiple languages. I agree that LC can allow an otherwise non-programmer to create rudimentary code and usable applications for cross-platform deployment. I applaud Kevin, et. al. for outstanding work toward that goal. Whilst I

Re: Be this guy

2013-10-13 Thread Pierre Sahores
Well said ;D Le 14 oct. 2013 à 01:01, Peter Hermsen a écrit : Yes, I program in many languages and at many levels. I find that LiveCode can run the gamut from the simplest to the most complex. Positioning it as anything short of that is somewhat of a denigration. The tag could be

After mobilePick, script may or may not continue.

2013-10-13 Thread Roger Eller
The script below always fires the first pick list. What seems strange to me is that after making this choice, the next pick list may or may not ever happen. Why? Is is a bug, or should I be doing something differently here? Thanks in advance. on touchEnd pid put PRIMARY cr \