[OT]DryLab Plus v5.81 announcement

2014-12-08 Thread revolut...@duncansoftware.on-rev.com
Duncan Software announces the immediate availability of the DryLab Plus v5.81. The DryLab Plus is educational software entailing a thorough dissection simulation including testing and reporting. There are 6 individual programs in the series including the Fetal Pig, Frog, Rat, Perch, Crayfish,

Re: Using polygon as line and childControlNames

2014-12-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Thanks, this does work but I am confused why childControlNames only returns POLYGON and not graphic id 1011 as graphic id 1011” is it’s actual name as I have not renamed it. No idea. It's not doing that for me.

Re: Missing properties

2014-12-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: I would expect adding a property to all objects to still need do be done in the engine. Why? I know we don't have detailed documentation on the syntax morphing functionality, but why would this be any different

Re: Using polygon as line and childControlNames

2014-12-08 Thread Terence Heaford
I’m using a Mac with Yosemite 10.10.1 Are you Windows or Linux? That may explain it. All the best Terry On 8 Dec 2014, at 14:46, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Thanks, this does work but I am

Re: [OT]DryLab Plus v5.81 announcement

2014-12-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:01 AM, revolut...@duncansoftware.on-rev.com revolut...@duncansoftware.on-rev.com wrote: 1994 for Windows 3.1 using ToolBook ... it has wandered through Authorware, Director, Flash, mTropolis, Oracle Media Objects, et al to finally and happily arrive at Livecode.

Re: Using polygon as line and childControlNames

2014-12-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
Mac with Yosemite 10,10,1 here. I've only checked in LC 7.0.0. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: I’m using a Mac with Yosemite 10.10.1 Are you Windows or Linux? That may explain it. All the best Terry On 8 Dec 2014, at 14:46, Geoff Canyon

Re: Using polygon as line and childControlNames

2014-12-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
I created a group and set this as the script: on drawLine x,y,x1,y1,tColor lock screen set the style of the templateGraphic to polygon put x , y return x1 , y1 into tPoints create grc in me put the id of the last grc of me into tID set the foregroundColor of of grc id tID

Re: [OT]DryLab Plus v5.81 announcement

2014-12-08 Thread Colin Holgate
I think the order may not be right. mTropolis pre-dates Flash. So does Oracle Media Objects. On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:01 AM, revolut...@duncansoftware.on-rev.com revolut...@duncansoftware.on-rev.com wrote: 1994 for

Convert PDF's to Images

2014-12-08 Thread Ray
Greetings List, About a year ago I solicited suggestions for a command line tool, Mac and Windows, I could license which would return the number of pages in a PDF as well as convert it to images at various resolutions. Unfortunately I still haven't found an ideal solution so I thought I'd

Re: [OT]DryLab Plus v5.81 announcement

2014-12-08 Thread tbodine
Congrats on 20 years with this product! It would be very interesting to hear details of your authoring odyssey through all those tools and years. -- Tom Bodine -- View this message in context:

RE: Convert PDF's to Images

2014-12-08 Thread Ralph DiMola
Ray, I talked to Mark about PDFs and LC @rr14. The Foxit PDF library has been chosen by Google and is open source. RR plans to make the API available cross-platform(including mobile). I don't know the implementation schedule. From Foxit Web Page: FoxitR Corporation, a leading provider of

Re: Using polygon as line and childControlNames

2014-12-08 Thread Mike Bonner
If the template grc is being set to polygon prior to creation, it SHOULD be named polygon. Polygons appear named as polygons. If you leave out the set style line, then an unnamed polygon shows in which case the engine defers it to graphic id whatever The first example you used, creates the grc,

Re: Convert PDF's to Images

2014-12-08 Thread Ray
Ralph, This is very exciting news for me regarding this front. How can I learn more and stay on top of this? Thanks, Ray On 12/8/2014 1:06 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Ray, I talked to Mark about PDFs and LC @rr14. The Foxit PDF library has been chosen by Google and is open source. RR plans

Re: How to Quit with a button

2014-12-08 Thread Jim Lambert
Prothero wrote: why won?t the button work when the toolbar menu does. Obviously, there?s a difference in the way each works. What happens if you doMenu “Quit” from menu [appName] ? Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread William de Smet
Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com: I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian

Re: How to Quit with a button

2014-12-08 Thread Ray
I just issue the command quit. You might consider saving first or, if you don't want any interruptions, locking messages first. On 12/8/2014 2:04 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: Prothero wrote: why won?t the button work when the toolbar menu does. Obviously, there?s a difference in the way each

RE: Convert PDF's to Images

2014-12-08 Thread Ralph DiMola
I think this was a v8 widget target. I don't remember if this is planned for a v7 version. Richard, Do you have any insight? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode

Re: Convert PDF's to Images

2014-12-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ralph DiMola wrote: I think this was a v8 widget target. I don't remember if this is planned for a v7 version. Richard, Do you have any insight? I don't. I know a PDF reader was one of the examples shown in Kevin's video, but that's as much as I know about that specific widget. Do you

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread Roger Guay
Poke around just between and above the Cancel and OK btns and you’ll find the sweet spot where the cursor turns to a hand. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:28 AM, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite

Re: [ANN] homemade slider

2014-12-08 Thread Dave Kilroy
Thanks Bernd - very nice indeed :) - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-homemade-slider-tp4686566p4686608.html Sent from

Re: Missing properties

2014-12-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: If the object in question is inside a group, you'd have to recurse your way out, or you could use: put word -5 to -1 of the long id of btn 1 or if you prefer: put word -5 to -1 of the long name of btn 1 (the

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahzx78f6kzudgcl/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2013.56.46.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Roger Guay

RE: Convert PDF's to Images

2014-12-08 Thread Ralph DiMola
Richard Gaskin wrote: I don't. I know a PDF reader was one of the examples shown in Kevin's video, but that's as much as I know about that specific widget. Do you have a URL to the Foxit open source code base? For many years it was not only proprietary but rather expensive to license. It'll be

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread William de Smet
Hi Geoff, This is my ColorPicker. I only have one visible line. I am on Yosemite 10.10.1 with LC 6.6.5 on a 21,5 inch iMac. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkqwsgvu6i5q7tz/ColorPickerYosemite.png?dl=0 greetings, William 2014-12-08 19:57 GMT+01:00 Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com: William, I'm

Re: Using polygon as line and childControlNames

2014-12-08 Thread Terence Heaford
Tried this and as you suggested it worked on 7.0.1. I had changed my stack to use the childControlIDs but with your experiment below working changed it back to using childControlNames and it now works, don’t know why but it does. The gremlins strike again. I think using childControlIDs is the

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread Terence Heaford
Here’s my screen grab clearly showing the dot. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98788898/LiveCode/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-08%20at%2019.45.37.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98788898/LiveCode/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-08%20at%2019.45.37.png All the best Terry On 8 Dec 2014, at

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread Howard Bornstein
Well, this is strange. I was checking out the color picker in Yosemite using TextEdit, which incidentally, doesn't have those Cancel and OK buttons, but has the dot to pull down the color dock. When I call up the color picker in LC, I get the same view as Geoff, with two lines of palette docks and

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread Howard Bornstein
BTW, I'm on Yosemite 10.10 and LC 6.6.2. Maybe this is a function of version idiosyncrasies. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Here’s my screen grab clearly showing the dot.

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread Terence Heaford
Should have said my screen shot showing the dot is LC community 6.7.1 (RC3) running on iMac 21.5 Yosemite 10.10.1 The dot show on TextEdit, Numbers, Pages. All the best Terry On 8 Dec 2014, at 19:49, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: Well, this is strange. I was checking

Re: Convert PDF's to Images

2014-12-08 Thread Jim Lambert
In earlier versions of LiveCode on a Mac, you could just load a PDF into a Player object. Then just set the current time to page through the document and grab screenshots to get images of the pages. But this doesn’t work anymore. JimL ___

Re: How to Quit with a button

2014-12-08 Thread William Prothero
Ray and Jim: Tnx for the suggestions. Tried both. I did lock messages prior to the quit statement. I couldn’t get the toolbar menu to fire on quit. The menu is “PT_Explorer” and the item I want is “Quit PT_Explorer”. So I did domenu “Quit PT_Explorer” of menu “PT_Explorer” I got no response

Re: How to Quit with a button

2014-12-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: I got no response from the doMenu command, so perhaps I needed to include the shortcut key in the name? DoMenu is pretty limited in LiveCode. It was necessary in HyperCard because that language wasn't rich enough to build an entire IDE in, so the only way you could

Re: [ANN] homemade slider

2014-12-08 Thread Marek Niesiobedzki
Thanks a lot Bernd. Perfect! Marek ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: How to Quit with a button

2014-12-08 Thread William Prothero
Richard: Thanks for the input. I’ll stop messing with the doMenu approach. I’ve tried a number of things to get my app to shut down without crashing the app. I know it must be possible because the toolbar menu quits fine. I may just stop trying to use a script to quit. It’s not essential since

Re: [ANN] homemade slider

2014-12-08 Thread BNig
Dave, Marek, thank you. The customSlider feature that Pete suggested is in the making. I think it is a very useful feature to be able to tab/click in the slider and the thumb moves to that position. Alternatively you can make the thumb move to the right/left end position as in a switch. Kind

Re: DoMenu

2014-12-08 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello Richard,I disagree with your conclusion that DoMenu was necessary in HyperCard because that language wasn't rich enough to build an entire IDE in.DoMenu was an integral part of HyperCard's ease-of learning-to-program.One command (doMenu) versus many commands to learn/use/remember.Part of

Re: How to Quit with a button

2014-12-08 Thread Jim Lambert
I suggested doMenu because Bill said selecting Quit from the menu worked while a button with ‘quit’ didn’t. But he reports that doesn’t work for him either, so perhaps doMenu doesn’t really 'do menu' under the hood. If the Quit accelerator key combination also works (command-Q on Mac) then I’d

Re: DoMenu

2014-12-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alain Farmer wrote: Hello Richard,I disagree with your conclusion that DoMenu was necessary in HyperCard because that language wasn't rich enough to build an entire IDE in. Did Apple ever release a version of HC with its IDE written in HyperTalk? DoMenu was an integral part of HyperCard's

Re: [OT]DryLab Plus v5.81 announcement

2014-12-08 Thread revolut...@duncansoftware.on-rev.com
Thanks to the kind folks who responded to my announcement. I had to do some debating with myself before responding to this off topic announcement with more off topic verbal diarrhea but there may be something instructional for someone here. I hope. Colin - You are correct about the order. I

Re: How to Quit with a button

2014-12-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: I’ve tried a number of things to get my app to shut down without crashing the app. I know it must be possible because the toolbar menu quits fine. I may just stop trying to use a script to quit. It’s not essential since the toolbar menu quits fine. Anyway, I’ve tried

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread Roger Guay
Aha, the thought plickens! I’m running Yosemite 10.10.1 and find the dot appearing in LC 6.7.1 (rc2) but NOT in LC 6.6.5 nor in 6.7. On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Should have said my screen shot showing the dot is LC community 6.7.1 (RC3)

Re: Missing properties

2014-12-08 Thread Scott Rossi
I haven’t been following this thread closely but the goal is to get the id and/or name of the card on which a controls sits, yes? If so, wouldn’t the following 2 functions work? # pObj is a long id control reference function cardOwnerID pObj set the wholeMatches to true return char

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
Here's mine in 6.6.2, which is the closest I have to 6.6.5. It has two rows, no matter how I resize it. I wonder if the international aspect is a factor here? https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahqcye1nmp3jn2r/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2017.32.53.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Roger Guay

Re: Missing properties

2014-12-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Admittedly, the cardOwnerID function could fail if a control was located within a nested group that was explicitly named “card id” but. . . Exactly why I did it the way I did. I do like the use of the id in returning

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread Devin Asay
Yup, it’s a Cocoa thing. Not there in 6.6.x on Yosemite. Magically appears when you invoke the color picker in 6.7.x. Devin On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: Here's mine in 6.6.2, which is the closest I have to 6.6.5. It has two rows, no matter how I resize

Re: DoMenu

2014-12-08 Thread dunbarx
Richard. ...Reliance on doMenu as a language design element also introduces inconsistencies: what happens when you make your own custom menus and still need access to a command normally handled by doMenu?... I understand the exigencies of cross platform support. That said, I miss most of

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

2014-12-08 Thread Roger Guay
Bummer! I find that versions 6.7.x are a problem for me, but I’ve also found that you can use the dot to reveal more swatches of the Color Picker in LC 6.7.1 (rc2), and it will stay “open” for when I go back to my current LC favorite, 6.6.5. Roger On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Devin Asay

Re: Convert PDF's to Images

2014-12-08 Thread ray
I know:)  I was using that method for a while but it was never really solid and now it's kind of petered out... Original message From: Jim Lambert j...@netrin.com Date:12/08/2014 5:03 PM (GMT-04:00) To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Subject: Re: Convert PDF's to

Re: DoMenu

2014-12-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
dunbarx wrote: I understand the exigencies of cross platform support. That said, I miss most of all the menu handling in HC, as opposed to the button group in LC. The creation of a custom menu with associated menuMessages was clean and clear, and those menuMessages could be invoked via

Re: Convert PDF's to Images

2014-12-08 Thread Roger Eller
Thierry Douez makes a LC product called sunnYpdf. It uses a 3rd party DLL file and a LiveCode library of custom commands to the DLL. It converts PDF to PNG (and other formats) beautifully. It's for Windows only though. If interested, contact the author here cont...@sunny-tdz.com. ~Roger On

Re: Convert PDF's to Images

2014-12-08 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote: About a year ago I solicited suggestions for a command line tool, Mac and Windows, I could license which would return the number of pages in a PDF as well as convert it to images at various resolutions. There are a few of these.

Re: How to Quit with a button

2014-12-08 Thread William Prothero
Richard: I tried doing “Lock messages” before the quit, and closing unused stacks, but it didn’t seem to make any difference. Apparently the toolbar menu quit command does some kind of cleanup before it actually quits. Re the system log, I don’t usually try to interpret that. There is a large