Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/29/2016 09:51 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I agree, but in this case there are two versions of each label and I can't think of any other way to show both on demand. Yes, I should have put a snarky emoji in there. I do rely on tooltips. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/29/2016 09:34 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: In all fairness, I was referring to my own work, and IIRC I also excluded complex productivity apps. My bad, I misremembered where that came from. What other people do is up to them. I usually just click it and see what happens. If the action

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
I am wide-eyed at the breadth of the suggestion that we could affect that multidimensional company, FourthWidth. On 3/29/2016 7:50 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: This pointless bickering needs to end fourthwidth. Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design On Mar 29, 2016, at 4:36 PM,

Re: Help with legacy on-rev site tripped up on new LiveCode hosting service

2016-03-29 Thread Martin Koob
Hi Thanks everyone for their comments. I managed to get it working. There were a number of issues with incompatibilities of LC server 4.6.4 scripts with the LiveCode 6.2.6 engine. With some help from Monte I managed to find and resolve the following issues. -one is that there was a global

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/29/2016 11:15 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: And Richard Gaskin has pointed out that if you need tooltips then the UI isn't designed correctly. I agree, but in this case there are two versions of each label and I can't think of any other way to show both on demand. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay

Using Behaviors for Triggering UI Design - Run Time

2016-03-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
  This goes to the architecture discussion, but more to implemetation best practices/methods, and not organization. Let's say we have a series of fields that have just a few words of text in them we want to center vertically. Text varies. Our designers may want to change the words over time.  

Re: Deleting a Control in LC8 DP16 in the IDE

2016-03-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/29/2016 8:43 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/29/2016 06:31 PM, Paul Hibbert wrote: Bill, There is a ‘Trash’ icon in the bottom row of tools in the PB, the only downside is it asks for confirmation before deleting, or you can double click the control in the PB, it should be selected if the

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: > On 03/29/2016 08:09 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> In either mode, you can hover over the label in the property >> inspector and the tooltip displays the alternate term. > > ...but only for property inspector items that actually have tooltips. > And Richard Gaskin has

Re: Help with legacy on-rev site tripped up on new LiveCode hosting service

2016-03-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/29/2016 08:35 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: And if you're mixing .lc and then including .irev files, I can see all kinds of funky things happening. Yeah... um... from experience that doesn't work. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/29/2016 08:09 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: In either mode, you can hover over the label in the property inspector and the tooltip displays the alternate term. ...but only for property inspector items that actually have tooltips. And Richard Gaskin has pointed out that if you need tooltips

Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

2016-03-29 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi, Glad you liked. :-D The following step by step recipe works fine to mask an image with another transparent png image, unlike the previous script that works only with an image and a vector graphic. 1) create a new stack and import an image 2) import a PNG image with transparency, to mask

Re: Help with legacy on-rev site tripped up on new LiveCode hosting service

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Bonner
It looks like your files have at least 1 .irev extension in use. Is your main file an .irev? If so, the server defaults to version 3.5.0 Using the .lc extension is 7.1.0 (on diesel, moved to liquidnet) If you know your setup works with 4.6.4 (assuming it got moved to liquidnet too) can you do

Re: Help with legacy on-rev site tripped up on new LiveCode hosting service

2016-03-29 Thread Phil Davis
Well... you have proper errors all right! Are there any stacks involved that might be saved with a later stackFileVersion than is recognized by... no, wait. The 7.1.0 engine would recognize all released stackFileVersions Are you at liberty to show us the code? We will need to connect

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/29/2016 3:36 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: Right you can turn on the English "meanings" of the property labels. Downside is: this doesn't help you later if you want to touch props by script. So I've left them to their native names so I would learn them that way. In either mode,

Re: Help with legacy on-rev site tripped up on new LiveCode hosting service

2016-03-29 Thread Martin Koob
Hi Phil The errors are row 160, col 2: script: parsing error (9) row 160, col 2: Function: error in source expression (tVars) row 160, col 2: do: can't find command (tVars) row 160, col 2: request: error in keyword expression (tVars) row 9, col 1: script: parsing error row 9, col 1:

Re: Help with legacy on-rev site tripped up on new LiveCode hosting service

2016-03-29 Thread Phil Davis
Martin, What kinds of errors do you get? If $_POST truly isn't handled as an array by LCS 7.1.0, that might explain the problems with your code below... except that you said it also happens with 6.6.2. You could write a test log file as your code goes through its process. I do that all the

Re: Deleting a Control in LC8 DP16 in the IDE

2016-03-29 Thread William Prothero
Arrrggghhh! I knew about the trash can, but forgot it. Dang! In my process, I accidentally deleted a group and I thought it was just going to disappear from the card it was on, and it deleted the entire group. Fortunately, I’m just playing with the UI controls, etc, and it was quickly fixed,

Re: Help with legacy on-rev site tripped up on new LiveCode hosting service

2016-03-29 Thread Martin Koob
Hi Phil I added that to the .htaccess file and same result. My site had been running on 4.6.4 using a similar thing David had set up on Tio. If I comment out the following lines the page will load without errors. /* # general details put gSESSION["userId"] into tVars[1]

Re: Deleting a Control in LC8 DP16 in the IDE

2016-03-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/29/2016 06:31 PM, Paul Hibbert wrote: Bill, There is a ‘Trash’ icon in the bottom row of tools in the PB, the only downside is it asks for confirmation before deleting, or you can double click the control in the PB, it should be selected if the card is visible, then you can hit delete.

Re: Deleting a Control in LC8 DP16 in the IDE

2016-03-29 Thread Paul Hibbert
Bill, There is a ‘Trash’ icon in the bottom row of tools in the PB, the only downside is it asks for confirmation before deleting, or you can double click the control in the PB, it should be selected if the card is visible, then you can hit delete. HTH Paul > On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:30 PM,

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Yes.. it's the first thing I do if I have a fresh install, On March 29, 2016 at 10:52:25 AM, Richard Gaskin (ambassa...@fourthworld.com) wrote: If you're seeing actual LiveCode property names there you went out of your way to change that in Prefs.

Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

2016-03-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Chipp's MagicCarpet was useful in its day... then came the lock down: no FTP in clear text. That may change soon as I believe we are getting close to solutions for SFTP. There is still a strong use case for passing the baton/binary-stack (ck in, ck out) style collaboration. I really can't

Re: Siege benchmarks for Pierre

2016-03-29 Thread Pierre Sahores
> Le 29 mars 2016 à 22:29, Richard Gaskin a écrit : > > Pierre Sahores wrote: > > >> Le 29 mars 2016 à 17:44, Richard Gaskin a écrit : > >> > >> Pierre Sahores wrote: > ... > > Interesting reads even if the 2d article's last test related to > > micro-caching needs

Re: Help with legacy on-rev site tripped up on new LiveCode hosting service

2016-03-29 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Martin, I had a major show-stopper on diesel recently (after LC's move to Liquid Web as the new on-rev host) that involved the server-side $_POST array. In bug report #15173 I included a zip file of client & server parts you can use to

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Scott Rossi
This pointless bickering needs to end fourthwidth. Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design > On Mar 29, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > >> On 03/29/2016 04:08 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> Well if that isn't the height of snobbery. > > The depth

Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: > I put almost all of my code in substacks, but haven’t tried text only > stacks yet. I can’t see having a jillion small text files to keep > track of. But then, a lot of folks seem to love them, so I wonder at > the advantages. Of course, there’s the github thing.

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/29/2016 04:08 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Well if that isn't the height of snobbery. The depth of your replies always charges me up. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
Well if that isn't the height of snobbery. :-P -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On March 29, 2016 5:05:24 PM Scott Rossi wrote: Frankly, I could do widthout this

Re: Siege benchmarks for Pierre

2016-03-29 Thread Pierre Sahores
> Le 29 mars 2016 à 22:30, Tom Glod a écrit : > > Fascinating thread! thanks guys. > > Any test with node.js as a file server? While raw JS and JQuery are, beside fine prebuild templates alike those ones ! : http://html5up.net/ i like to tune web interface from (as some

Help with legacy on-rev site tripped up on new LiveCode hosting service

2016-03-29 Thread Martin Koob
Hi, I have an site on on-rev TIO that was working but now that it has been transferred to the new site it generates livecode errors on some pages. I had this problem a couple of years ago but David Williams had managed to make it run on TIO which would accept the legacy site using LiveCode

Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

2016-03-29 Thread William Prothero
Richard: Some of the items were mentioned in Bramanathaswami’s post. Some, of course, is just taste. I put almost all of my code in substacks, but haven’t tried text only stacks yet. I can’t see having a jillion small text files to keep track of. But then, a lot of folks seem to love them, so I

Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

2016-03-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
  I'm going blind here, eyes burning with the app contents open to the LC 8 application folder and looking at the 100's of .rev, .livecodescript and .livecode files. So here's a thought experiment and me thinking outloud for this actual project in front of me. Starting at square 1 The

Deleting a Control in LC8 DP16 in the IDE

2016-03-29 Thread William Prothero
In Version 7, I can delete a control, by selecting the control in the Project Browser, and clicking “Delete”. This doesn’t happen in LC8 DP16, on OSX. Bug? I can delete it by selecting it on the stage and clicking “Delete”. I remember something about this mentioned on the list, but can’t find

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Scott Rossi
Frankly, I could do widthout this commentary. ;-) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 3/29/16, 1:40 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mark Wieder" wrote: >And why is "Width" easier to

Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: Organizing the code in a project is really important and there are lots of ways to go wrong. Can you describe some? While documenting good patterns can be useful, sometimes documenting anti-patterns is just as useful. Several years ago at one of the LC conferences

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > @ Richard --> Right you can turn on the English "meanings" of the > property labels. Downside is: this doesn't help you later if you > want to touch props by script. So I've left them to their native > names so I would learn them that way. I wrote the

Re: Design Challenge -- Round Corner mask on images

2016-03-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Alejandro: Nandri, Mahalo, Merci, Thank you! Awesome extremely useful On March 28, 2016 at 7:44:22 PM, Alejandro Tejada (capellan2...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi All, By trial and error, (the worse kind of error) I finally find a script that mask an image using a

Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

2016-03-29 Thread Earthednet-wp
I second this. Organizing the code in a project is really important and there are lots of ways to go wrong. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Mar 29, 2016, at 12:26 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > wrote: > > Ahh... so code that has object level scope

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/29/2016 12:09 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I’m guessing you have the preference setting ‘Property Labels Are:’ > set to ‘Name of LiveCode Property. Why doesn't a tool for an English-like language display its native English-like property names by default? Making that change is the first

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Duh: OK this makes sense since the foreground color is the pencil color, is the text color, is the line color etc. > foregroundColor (forecolor) = border colour @ Richard --> Right you can turn on the English "meanings" of the property labels. Downside is: this doesn't help you later if you

Re: Siege benchmarks for Pierre

2016-03-29 Thread Tom Glod
Fascinating thread! thanks guys. Any test with node.js as a file server? On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:54 PM, wrote: > Sorry. Found a mistake in my last mail. please, see the rectification > below. > > > - 50% read / 50% write : nginx+luajit (openresty) + LUA or fine >

Re: Siege benchmarks for Pierre

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Pierre Sahores wrote: >> Le 29 mars 2016 à 17:44, Richard Gaskin a écrit : >> >> Pierre Sahores wrote: ... > Interesting reads even if the 2d article's last test related to > micro-caching needs to be read with care... Understood. I offered them merely as inspiration for the scope of

Fwd: Siege benchmarks for Pierre

2016-03-29 Thread sc
Sorry. Found a mistake in my last mail. please, see the rectification below. > - 50% read / 50% write : nginx+luajit (openresty) + LUA or fine tuned/Heap > RAM scaled Tomcat7 : some hundreds of requests / second (lots less under > apache2) Best, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70

Re: Script Only Stack Architecture

2016-03-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Ahh... so code that has object level scope should be e.g. "tiny-little-nav-buttons.livecodescript" That is set as the behavior for those buttons? and code that has things like "getLocalAppPath()" should be in " start using stack "coreAppFunctions.livecodescript" Is that what you mean? @

Re: Siege benchmarks for Pierre

2016-03-29 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hello Richard, > Le 29 mars 2016 à 17:44, Richard Gaskin a écrit : > > Pierre Sahores wrote: > >> If your lcHTTPd standalone is a TCP sockets server, the low TOP load >> (less than 25%) is not surprising at all and can even go lots less in >> using nginx instead of

Re: Border color of graphic

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul wrote: >> On Mar 28, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: >> >> How do we set border color for a graphic object (round rectangle >> style) never used them much in the past, now I'm all about graphic >> UI. >> >> We have the line width, but I don't see border in the colors for

Captain Oveur

2016-03-29 Thread RM
Or: "Airplane 3". Well, not quite, but it does demonstrate how one can do a "mouseDown" in one control and then, with the mouse key still depressed wander over to another control and get feedback that one has done that. http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=26905 Richmond.

Re: iOS deployment question

2016-03-29 Thread William Prothero
Ben: This sounds reasonable. Then I don’t have to translate the terms from Xcode terminology to Livecode terminology. Best, Bill > On Mar 29, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > > FWIW, this really isn't a LiveCode issue. Back when we were doing a lot of > iOS app

Re: iOS deployment question

2016-03-29 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 29, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Dave Kilroy wrote: > > Glad you got things sorted William > > For those who find they are accumulating more and more old copies of > provisioning profiles on their local drive (which can lead to error > messages) and can't find a way of

Re: iOS deployment question

2016-03-29 Thread Dave Kilroy
Glad you got things sorted William For those who find they are accumulating more and more old copies of provisioning profiles on their local drive (which can lead to error messages) and can't find a way of deleting them - they are located here: "/Users//Library/MobileDevice/Provisioning

Fwd: Re: Siege benchmarks for Pierre

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Pierre Sahores wrote: If your lcHTTPd standalone is a TCP sockets server, the low TOP load (less than 25%) is not surprising at all and can even go lots less in using nginx instead of apache... Yes, the benefits of using NginX as the broker instead of Apache are well documented in these

Re: Richmond is on a roll.

2016-03-29 Thread RM
Super: I now have to think of a suitable riposte! Watch this space. Richmond. On 28.03.2016 23:26, Tore Nilsen wrote: You sent me down a slippery slope here. I made some changes to the wipe version. If highlite of the Dissolve button is true, then it is a replication of the blend version

Re: iOS deployment question

2016-03-29 Thread Ben Rubinstein
FWIW, this really isn't a LiveCode issue. Back when we were doing a lot of iOS app development, submission - which should have been a matter of pressing a few buttons - invariably took many hours of hair tearing - and this in spite of the fact that we were making new submissions virtually