Re: Boring but important - selling a download product for Windows

2017-01-23 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
If there's a ditch on either side of the road, we can easily get in it. :) ~Roger On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Actually I do know someone who speaks, more or less, Etruscan. He is an > expert in dead and dying

Re: Boring but important - selling a download product for Windows

2017-01-23 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Actually I do know someone who speaks, more or less, Etruscan. He is an expert in dead and dying languages. Sadly though he’s in England, so Dr H’s uncle is unlikely to meet him. Could we get more OT if we tried? Graham > On 23 Jan 2017, at 21:37, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode >

Re: Boring but important - selling a download product for Windows

2017-01-23 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
With whom doth he converse? Richmond. On 1/23/17 10:11 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: First caveat: I do not sell my software in large quantities (anyone for Sanskrit?). I

Re: Boring but important - selling a download product for Windows

2017-01-23 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have an uncle fluent in both 14th Dynasty Egyptian and Etruscan; does > that count ? > heh now I REALLY have a reason to come to a Livecode conference. I'd love to see/hear you two guys

Re: Boring but important - selling a download product for Windows

2017-01-23 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > First caveat: I do not sell my software in large quantities (anyone for > Sanskrit?). I have an uncle fluent in both 14th Dynasty Egyptian and Etruscan; does that count ? :) --

RE: Idea about Norton

2017-01-23 Thread tbodine via use-livecode
Looks like we'd have to request user to disable or ignore both AV SW and Microsoft's Smartscreen (Win 8 and 10) before installation. As a Norton user myself, I just downloaded on Windows 10 a code signed test file of my own, and Norton's screens were less off-putting and more informative than

RE: Idea about Norton

2017-01-23 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I have a Adobe CC business account. When the problem requires a re-install Adobe tech support always has me disable AV SW on any of the PCs with CC installed. If Adobe requires turning off the AV SW to install CC components then why would it be a problem for LC SW distribution to require the same?

Re: Idea about Norton

2017-01-23 Thread tbodine via use-livecode
Or, NOT off-list. Tom -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Idea-about-Norton-tp4711879p4711882.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Idea about Norton

2017-01-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I think AV authors were onto this trick a long time ago. I've asked LC to look into seeing what can be done about this (mainly by contacting Norton), because we use NAV at our company, and for every new compile of every desktop app, we have to manually approve it on every workstation. On Mon,

Re: Idea about Norton

2017-01-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I think this is the wrong way to go about it. I don't think Norton simply counts the number of times software attempts to install without signing, and then has a threshold where it accepts the unsigned installation without challenge. I have noticed however that sometimes installation

Idea about Norton

2017-01-23 Thread tbodine via use-livecode
Hi Graham. I wanted to float a rough idea off-list... Tell me what you think. If Norton faults our files for being new and not (yet) popular, perhaps we could generate a base of download activity ourselves to get over the threshold. Specifically, I'm thinking of an informal group of software

Re: Boring but important - selling a download product for Windows

2017-01-23 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Thanks Tom, all good advice, most of which I am following, although I am starting with the zipped version of the installer (made with innoSetup and code signed). The trouble with trying to ignore Norton is that it’s used a lot, and for those that have it installed, the instructions to reach

Re: AW: Boring but important - selling a download product for Windows

2017-01-23 Thread tbodine via use-livecode
Hi all. Here's what I've learned from many years of providing PC downloads: * Email attachments are heavily filtered and rightly so. Use this only as a last resort for delivery of a program. * These days, fewer people are willing to download a trial version, in part due to Norton, but also many

Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

2017-01-23 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Bob, The LC Dictionary shows AppleScript commands are for the desktop only - so probably lcServer can’t do it. If there is anyone on the list who has had success having lcServer send AppleScript commands please feel free to chime in! Thanks, Rick > On Jan 23, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Bob

Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

2017-01-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
If you have a Mac, there is IAC Inter-Application Communication). I am not sure if lcServer can issue Applescript commands, but you CAN create a standalone to listen for Applescript commands, and the IDE runnign on a Mac does this natively. Bob S > On Jan 22, 2017, at 11:12 , Rick Harrison

Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

2017-01-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That is becase the parent process for both stacks is the IDE. In a web browser, as previously mentioned, each time lcServer runs a script it is a new process. Bob S On Jan 21, 2017, at 07:47 , Rick Harrison via use-livecode >

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Re: HTML5 and different editions

2017-01-23 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 23 Jan 2017, at 12:16, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: in short, its not a question of changing a button in the Standalone Builder. If you want to build open source licensed, free, Community edition standalones, then you need to use Community. Thanks Heather, getting this additional

Re: HTML5 and different editions

2017-01-23 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Guys, there seems to be quite a bit of confusion here! Let me try and clear it up. LiveCode Community is free, open source, and lets you deploy to all platforms including HTML5. As we are all aware, you must share your source code for anything you make publicly available. LiveCode Indy offers

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 67

2017-01-23 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
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Re: HTML5 and different editions

2017-01-23 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 22 Jan 2017, at 23:36, hh via use-livecode wrote: Keith writes about the ability to make standalones, not about the license. I thought *every* edition of LiveCode can create HTML5 standalones? The Standalone Application Settings window in the standard Indy LiveCode does show an HTML5

AW: Boring but important - selling a download product for Windows

2017-01-23 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hi Graham, I do it just this way - creating a signed installer, zip it and upload it for download. Offering an installer exe without having zipped it, will always be detected as potentially harmful. The remaining support is for users, who don't know how to handle a zip file Tiemo