Re: Writing Extensions

Hi Mark, Your way is much better! I just started learning Java a few days ago so the reason I did it wrong was because I did not know what I was doing. THANK YOU! JB > On May 25, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 05/25/2017

Re: Writing Extensions

On 05/25/2017 06:58 PM, JB via use-livecode wrote: After it has been compiled as Arguments.class you can call it in liveCode like this: on mouseUp put "Drink" into arg1 put "Hot" into arg2 put "Java" into arg3 put "/Users/THEUSER/Desktop/" & return & "java Arguments"into

Re: Writing Extensions

Here is the Java code to test args; public class Arguments { public static void main(String[] args) { for(int i = 0; i < args.length; i++) { System.out.println(args[i]); } } } After it has been compiled as Arguments.class you can call it in liveCode like

Re: English Like?

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! I understand that inside the Colonies, the punctuation goes inside the quotation marks, and outside the Colonies, the punctuation goes outside the quotation marks. Just because this thread is being read and replied to from both inside and outside the Colonies does not

Re: FTP from iOS but getting tsneterr: (67) Access denied: 530

Hi John, Certain characters in usernames and passwords need to be URL encoded if you want to include them in a URL string. The @ character is one of them. Try something like his: put urlencode("autoim...@jdoe.on-rev.com") into tUser put urlencode("x") into tPass put the last image into

Re: English Like?

Were would you use "box" as a synonym (if it were one)? Is it the same as "rectangle" or "ask/answer". End users often tell me, "a box popped up on my screen.", not a prompt, or a message. Next, they proceed to tell me what it said. ME: "You're telling me, there was a _talking box_ on your

Re: FTP from iOS but getting tsneterr: (67) Access denied: 530

Ralph DiMola wrote: > This works for me. > > put MyVar into url ("ftp://FTPusername:ftppassw...@mydomain.on-rev.com/somepath/somefile.ext;) Would that be "ftps://..."? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web

RE: FTP from iOS but getting tsneterr: (67) Access denied: 530

John, This works for me. put MyVar into url ("ftp://FTPusername:ftppassw...@mydomain.on-rev.com/somepath/somefile.ext;) I looks like your using your email address for the username. Create an FTP account in cPanel FTP setup. Don't use the built in one or someone could sniff the password to

Re: mac/win codecs

Doh! should have used a quick google search, found it! sorry for the bother. jeff > On May 25, 2017, at 3:19 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: > > I was trying to find the page i had last fall that had the current codecs > supported on windows under livecode 7. Cant find

Re: Funny pricing policy

On 05/25/2017 02:12 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: OK, you gotta tell me which private developer tool companies have free admission to their conferences, so I can attend one and learn something new. I just looked at 4D, Apple, FMP, Google, and Zoho's conference sites, and all were

RE: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

It works for me on OSX 10.11.6 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:04 PM To: How

FTP from iOS but getting tsneterr: (67) Access denied: 530

Hi All, I’m trying to ftp and image from the photo gallery on iOS to my on-rev account. I’m using the example: on mouseUp mobilepickphoto “library" --upload to FTP put the last image into url

Re: English Like?

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:24 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > It will become blindingly clear to you in a couple of years who I will > have tested it on. > and don't forget dangling participles. sqb -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -

Re: Open Inv Stack on iPhone

Mark, Good suggestion! But, I will need to display the stack at some point. There must be a reason why this is failing. Perhaps someone at LC will see this post and shed some light. -Dan >> Assuming that you don't need to display the stack, you could use start using >> stack

Re: English Like?

I have on several occasions propagated this list to my computer science students. Now I wonder whether it had not been just as appropriate to tell my English students that they would benefit from joining this list. Tore Nilsen > 25. mai 2017 kl. 23.35 skrev Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode >

Re: English Like?

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:24 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > It will become blindingly clear to you in a couple of years who I will > have tested it on. You forgot to gratuitously split an infinitive . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702)

Re: Open Inv Stack on iPhone

Assuming that you don't need to display the stack, you could use start using stack “/folder/folder/stackName.rev" and reference any objects and scripts in the stack. Kind regards, Mark Schonewille http://economy-x-talk.com https://www.facebook.com/marksch Buy the most extensive book on the

Re: English Like?

It will become blindingly clear to you in a couple of years who I will have tested it on. On 5/25/17 3:51 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Seriously. This is what most people who think they know about time travel do not get. Given time travel backwards 4 hours, if you do not ALSO go

Re: English Like?

On 25 May 2017, at 20:10, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I almost ace'd grammar in grade school, but I kept complaining that the English language had more exceptions than it had actual rules. Sounds like you *should* have aced it. :D k ___

Re: Funny pricing policy

OK, you gotta tell me which private developer tool companies have free admission to their conferences, so I can attend one and learn something new. I just looked at 4D, Apple, FMP, Google, and Zoho's conference sites, and all were charging for admission. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Dan

Open Inv Stack on iPhone

Does anyone have any insight about this…. If you open a stack file on an iPhone invisibly, the app crashes. For example: open inv stack “/folder/folder/stackName.rev" This works fine on windows, mac, and an iPad. But, on a iPhone (real device or simulator) it crashes. Any thoughts?

Re: English Like?

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 05/25/2017 01:23 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> Conjunctions should not be used as the first word in a sentence. >> > > You shouldn't put sentences in passive voice. It's not

Re: Funny pricing policy

Developer conferences nowadays are more often than not available online, for free http://pyvideo.org and are utilised to showcase ideas and concepts to a wider audience. They're a great marketing asset, especially keynotes On 25 May 2017 9:45 pm, "Mike Kerner via use-livecode" <

Re: English Like?

Oh right. Bob S > On May 25, 2017, at 13:14 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > making a container (but NOT a solid object). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: English Like?

Seriously. This is what most people who think they know about time travel do not get. Given time travel backwards 4 hours, if you do not ALSO go back in space, the first thing you will notice is how mind bogglingly cold it is, and shortly thereafter that there is no air to breath, and if you

Re: English Like?

On 05/25/2017 01:23 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: Conjunctions should not be used as the first word in a sentence. You shouldn't put sentences in passive voice. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

Jonathan, Are we running? For the next person who is trying to solve the same problem, it would be good to let them know how it ends. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I'm pretty sure you can't do it while it's still in the applications > folder.

Re: Funny pricing policy

It's a developer conference, just an online one. If it was being held in a hall or at LC HQ, you would have to pay to attend. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dan Brown via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Can't believe the streaming events are being paywalled. Its really

Re: WannaCry [OT]

Agreed. I didn't mean to imply that because exploitable code is difficult to sus out, we shouldn't do due diligence in designing things with that in mind in the first place. I don't think Novell has ever been hacked into from the outside. It was written ground up with security, especially

Re: Funny pricing policy

Can't believe the streaming events are being paywalled. Its really backward. The idea should be to to entice the wider programming world IN, not lock them out. On 25 May 2017 8:42 pm, "Mike Kerner via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > why not? Coupons are always

Re: English Like?

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Conjunctions should not be used as the first word in a sentence. It was the type of grammar up with which I shall not put! -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462

Re: Sql problem

Should read, "Forms Generator currently connects directly to SQL VIA SQLYOGA because if I had to write it using only the LC API, I would never have persued it to the level that I have. > > On May 25, 2017, at 12:27 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > >

Re: English Like?

Conjunctions should not be used as the first word in a sentence. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I almost ace'd

Re: English Like?

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I almost ace'd grammar in grade school, but I kept complaining that the > English language had more exceptions than it had actual rules. > And we like it that way! :) -- Dr. Richard E.

Re: English Like?

Quite. I never drink vodka. But a "box" is not a BOX, and more than a "button" on a computer screen has anything whatsoever to do with buttons on my radio. If I drink Rakia (the Bulgarian homologue of Whisky) I can feel this intuitively. I was not so daft as to use the word BOX without

Re: English Like?

You have to go back in space too, it's the only way to make "top" turn into "left". On 5/25/17 2:05 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: In Jacque's Time Travel Stack, it's counter-clockwise, but only when you go back in time. Bob S On May 24, 2017, at 13:41 , Scott Rossi via

Re: Funny pricing policy

why not? Coupons are always retroactive. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:02 PM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Mike K. wrote: > > Or, you can email support and magically get the discount applied, > > retroactively. > > That's even a bit more funny. > Email support

Re: Sql problem

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > mySQL for Windows is *VERY VERY DIFFICULT* to set up to run with SSL Bob, About running MySQL on Windows, a good choice would be using docker[1]. There are pre-made images for running MySQL

Re: Sql problem

Boy howdy do I have one! Forms Generator currently connects directly to SQL because if I had to write it using only the LC API, I would never have persued it to the level that I have. As it is, it's a critical component of our everyday workflow for my IT techs. I bet with a Web API, a LOT more

mac/win codecs

I was trying to find the page i had last fall that had the current codecs supported on windows under livecode 7. Cant find anything now on the current livecode site on the codecs supported or the video api used. Can anyone point me to where the info is for lc 7.1? thanks jeff

Re: English Like?

On 05/25/2017 12:08 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Okay you copied that from an online encyclopedia! A couple of them, actually. Pasted the most interesting parts together. You didn't really think I got that out of my own head, did you? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: English Like?

Technically, a box is a 3 dimentional object made of 6 rectangles each joined at the corners to form a solid object. If there are one of those on your screen and it's talking to you, I'd lay off the kimche for a bit and get some sleep. Oh, and when drinking vodka, don't eat the worm!!! Bob S

Re: English Like?

I almost ace'd grammar in grade school, but I kept complaining that the English language had more exceptions than it had actual rules. Bob S > On May 25, 2017, at 02:54 , Keith Martin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Speaking as a university lecturer who teaches

Re: English Like?

Okay you copied that from an online encyclopedia! Bob S > On May 24, 2017, at 14:47 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > > Syntax is an emotive issue (I could beat Python to death with some of the > > decisions they have made about syntax - but yet I

Re: English Like?

In Jacque's Time Travel Stack, it's counter-clockwise, but only when you go back in time. Bob S > On May 24, 2017, at 13:41 , Scott Rossi via use-livecode > wrote: > > @Mark — the sequence/direction is clockwise, if that helps. So top -> left… > doesn’t

Re: Apparent peculiar behavior in browser widget on iOS

More specifically - this seems to happen after setting the htmltext by script. It works fine if the browser widget already has the right htmltext when the stack loads. Sent from my iPhone > On May 25, 2017, at 12:59 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > It appears that one cannot send a

Re: English Like?

On May 25, 2017 3:03:01 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-05-24 19:14, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 05/24/2017 08:03 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Anyway, I shall now get off my (small?) soap-box. Again this is a

Apparent peculiar behavior in browser widget on iOS

It appears that one cannot send a JavaScript message from the browser widget to LC from a JS function initiated by a body onload event. It works on mac, but not on iPhone. It is most peculiar and I am wondering if anyone else has encountered anything like this. Sent from my iPhone

Re: Printed dictionary (was Re: send mouseup to control)

On 05/25/2017 07:47 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: James Hale wrote: > In following them discussion on execution contexts Richard wrote: >> The executionContexts is documented, though in all fairness that >> Dict entry includes a note about not relying on the format of its >>

Re: Writing Extensions

I agree with this. I never use the fallthrough feature because it's backwards from how I think. Trying to detemine where to put the conditions in the tree to effect the correct fall through or breaks is challenging for me. But now it is what it is. Bob S > On May 24, 2017, at 03:03 , Mark

Re: LC Server - Upload Large Images?

I wonder if the file is being created read only (is it possible there is a umask set on that folder that does this?) at which point renaming it, deleting, or whatever wouldn't work, but reading it and creating a copy (put url into url) would work. I'd be looking at the permissions of those newly

Re: Funny pricing policy

> Mike K. wrote: > Or, you can email support and magically get the discount applied, > retroactively. That's even a bit more funny. Email support after each new discount to get the discount applied, retroactively? Why not the future discounts? ;-)

Re: Funny pricing policy

Or, you can email support and magically get the discount applied, retroactively. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:29 AM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > The T-shirt pricing policy connected to LC Global: > > One has to pay 100% if one purchases LC Global nearly 'at once',

Re: LC Server - Upload Large Images?

Rick Harrison wrote: > After way too much wasted time - the answers ended up being: > > Instead of using rename which throws a sysError 20 to move the file > from the /tmp/ folder to the destination folder use: > > put URL ("binfile:" & tFilePath) into URL ("binfile:" & >

Funny pricing policy

The T-shirt pricing policy connected to LC Global: One has to pay 100% if one purchases LC Global nearly 'at once', one has to pay 50% if one purchases LC Global a few days later, one has to pay 0% if one answers the survey and buys LCG after that. The next steps are probably one has to pay

Re: Sql problem

William Prothero wrote: > Thanks for the comments. I bet the linefeeds caused me the problem, > since I just took the contents of a text field, put them in an array, > and didn’t pay attention to linefeeds. Linefeeds are common in data. Consider any user note, such as bug reports at Bugzilla,

Re: Dropbox v1 API - one month until it is shut off!

To make matters even more interesting, even though the LC version is based on Gerard's library, the syntax appears to be different, and the operation is different as Monte made it asynchronous for paying customers. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:

Re: Printed dictionary (was Re: send mouseup to control)

James Hale wrote: > In following them discussion on execution contexts Richard wrote: >> The executionContexts is documented, though in all fairness that >> Dict entry includes a note about not relying on the format of its >> contents. > > ...this morning the printed dictionary arrived!  > > So

Re: LC Server - Upload Large Images?

Hi there, After way too much wasted time - the answers ended up being: Instead of using rename which throws a sysError 20 to move the file from the /tmp/ folder to the destination folder use: put URL ("binfile:" & tFilePath) into URL ("binfile:" & VarNewPathAndFileToSaveTo) Where

Re: English Like?

If the "box" is just a rectangle then it is probably some sort of modeless window, if the "box" is 'talking' to me then it's an ask/answer thing (which have always struck me as labelled the wrong way round). Personally I tend to go for "thingy", this is so polysemantic there is absolutely

Re: English Like?

Were would you use "box" as a synonym (if it were one)? Is it the same as "rectangle" or "ask/answer". End users often tell me, "a box popped up on my screen.", not a prompt, or a message. Next, they proceed to tell me what it said. ME: "You're telling me, there was a _talking box_ on your

Re: English Like?

OOPS!! https://vimeo.com/36579366 On 25 May 2017 at 12:33, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Can you post the URL to that video, please? > > Richmond. > > On 5/25/17 1:13 pm, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote: > >> Hi >> >> You might want to watch

Re: English Like?

Can you post the URL to that video, please? Richmond. On 5/25/17 1:13 pm, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote: Hi You might want to watch this 1 hour ish video by Bret Victor as you are compiling. I've seen a good few of his talks over the years and read a lot of his stuff. If you think it's

Re: English Like?

Hi You might want to watch this 1 hour ish video by Bret Victor as you are compiling. I've seen a good few of his talks over the years and read a lot of his stuff. If you think it's too long just got to either 2:30 or 10:30 (that one is mind blowing) but I'd suggest you listen to the whole

Re: English Like?

On 24 May 2017, at 16:19, prothero--- via use-livecode wrote: Or conversely, would people new to coding find htalk easy and intuitive? These are two different questions and a rigorous answer will most likely not come from knowledgeable livecode programmers. Speaking as a university lecturer

Re: WannaCry [OT]

On 2017-05-19 18:02, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I don't think it's a matter of programming standards. The methods used to exploit systems are almost always something you could never have guessed. Flaws in code can be extremeny difficult to see, as was the case in the SSL Heartbleed bug.

Re: Sql problem

I always thought it would be nice to have a different type of connector in SQL Yoga that would interface with a web API. I never had a project where I needed to actually flesh out the idea to see if it was practical. -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:05

Re: English Like?

On 2017-05-24 19:27, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 05/24/2017 08:11 AM, Martin Koob via use-livecode wrote: I agree that LiveCode script should become more English like as time goes on not only with english words but also with more natural(or intuitive) grammar. From your examples I

Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 83

Hi Alejandro, Ali Lloyd is the LiveCode Technical Project Manager now. Best, Panos -- On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > This Week in LiveCode Newsletter wrote: > > > Peter Brett has sadly left us for pastures new, >

Re: English Like?

On 2017-05-24 23:47, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 05/24/2017 08:03 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Syntax is an emotive issue (I could beat Python to death with some of the decisions they have made about syntax - but yet I still use it and slightly enjoy doing so for the

Re: English Like?

On 2017-05-24 19:14, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 05/24/2017 08:03 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Anyway, I shall now get off my (small?) soap-box. Again this is a discussion, there are lots of reasons why people don't choose LiveCode and we try our very best to