Re: Slow LC 9 Performance - Test Stack, Video, QA Report

2018-09-11 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
PS - Alex, I see that when I modified the code I moved the timer and ended up timing the loading of the files, whereas you were timing the data comparison after loading! :) I'll try that tomorrow night. Good area for testing, interesting results. Best wishes, Curry K.

Re: Slow LC 9 Performance - Test Stack, Video, QA Report

2018-09-11 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Alex: > And I was encouraged to try a quick test - which turned out to be > a counter-example. LC9 is 4x faster than LC6 on this little test > (consistently over different photos). Thanks! This is a good test. Any counter-examples are great since they narrow down the problem areas.

Re: Navigator 6.2 alpha 1 is out

2018-09-11 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
...and updated to alpha 2. Found and fixed a bug with proportional resizing, and removed an unnecessary visual element from the resizing dialog. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe

Re: Slow LC 9 Performance - Test Stack, Video, QA Report

2018-09-11 Thread hh via use-livecode
As to speed comparisons with LC 9: Compared to LC 8, LC Builder of LC 9 has an increase of 50-120% in speed. (Seen with timings when creating an LCD-scroller widget and an image widget). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Navigator 6.2 alpha 1 is out

2018-09-11 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
As usual, you can get Navigator here . Or grab it from GitHub . The complete update list is below, but the four big things are: 1. Preferences are stored as an external text file, so updating

RE: Slow LC 9 Performance - Test Stack, Video, QA Report

2018-09-11 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I have observed this also. I tested by putting an animated gif in front of a extremely hi-res test image. LC 8 choked but LC9 did not even breath hard. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode

Re: Slow LC 9 Performance - Test Stack, Video, QA Report

2018-09-11 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 11/09/2018 16:59, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: Interesting considerations. Whatever the causes, LC 9 needs a little work to get back in shape. Get off the couch and start running again! :) There are so many different tasks where 9 is underperforming; any code with repeat loops,

Re: Natural Programming

2018-09-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Imagine if he replied, "No, my doctor took care of that." Bob S > On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:50 , Richmond via use-livecode > wrote: > > When I went to the USA in 1993 I had to set up a phone and did not understand > the way things were done so enquired at the phone office of the guy there, >

Re: Natural Programming

2018-09-11 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
When I went to the USA in 1993 I had to set up a phone and did not understand the way things were done so enquired at the phone office of the guy there, "Do you have STD?" [STD: Standard Trunk Dialling] Richmond. On 11.09.2018 22:36, Devin Asay via use-livecode wrote: On Sep 11, 2018, at

Re: Natural Programming

2018-09-11 Thread Devin Asay via use-livecode
On Sep 11, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > On 09/11/2018 10:27 AM, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode wrote: >> Reminds me of the dyslexic cop that tried to give me an IUD. >>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 8:18 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> You know,

Re: Natural Programming

2018-09-11 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/11/2018 10:27 AM, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode wrote: Reminds me of the dyslexic cop that tried to give me an IUD. On Sep 11, 2018, at 8:18 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: You know, programming comes so naturally to me, it's like it's in my NDA. I used to have dialup but

Re: Natural Programming

2018-09-11 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
Reminds me of the dyslexic cop that tried to give me an IUD. > On Sep 11, 2018, at 8:18 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > You know, programming comes so naturally to me, it's like it's in my NDA. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Natural Programming

2018-09-11 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I’m surprised you can tell anyone about that. > On Sep 11, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > You know, programming comes so naturally to me, it's like it's in my NDA. > > Bob S > > ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Slow LC 9 Performance - Test Stack, Video, QA Report

2018-09-11 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Mark Wieder: > I'm suspicious enough of the sleight-of-hand that underpins the > use of unquoted string literals not to trust the easy answers, ... Bob S: > That's the first thing I thought. Interesting considerations. Whatever the causes, LC 9 needs a little work to get back in shape. Get

Natural Programming

2018-09-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
You know, programming comes so naturally to me, it's like it's in my NDA. Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-11 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Mark, thanks for your in depth exploration of this issue ... Richard, the coded issue for me is to allow my users to view all youtube videos as well as any other streaming site that uses h264 ...youtube uses a different codec for their live stuff and a different one for the archived stuff.

Re: hard-to-use software

2018-09-11 Thread pink via use-livecode
This was a fun read. I always try and make software with "advanced" layers and settings so that it can be used simply right away, but you make it as complicated as you want it to be. - --- Greg (pink) Miller mad, pink and dangerous to code -- Sent from:

Re: iOS 12 compatibility

2018-09-11 Thread Randy Hengst via use-livecode
Thank you for those details, Andrew. BTW, the app I submitted last month was actually approved the same day I submitted it… but, the app wasn’t very complicated. Apple does seem to have stepped up the speed of the review process. be well, randy www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > On Sep 11,

Re: iOS 12 compatibility

2018-09-11 Thread Andrew Bell via use-livecode
From: Randy Hengst To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: iOS 12 compatibility Message-ID: <0be15129-2652-43a4-aecc-00498689e...@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Andrew, What version of LC and Xcode combination did you use for your build? be well, randy

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-09-11 07:32, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: So, your binaries would actually be non-GPLv3 licensed; but you would then be providing the source-code (which you own the copyright to) under GPLv3 on GitHub. Whether that works depends on what the requirements on your project are re

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-09-11 03:14, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: To start with I think you need to ensure that building CEF with proprietary codecs enabled does not include anything that has a license that is incompatible with GPL 3. Otherwise you can’t distribute your standalone with the modified

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
All this sounds like maybe looking for a GPL-compatible codec may be easier. Tom, would WebM do what you need? https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/googles-updated-webm-license https://www.webmproject.org -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-09-10 10:49, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote: Mark - can you find fault in my logic? And if not then if it is put into LC it would have a setting for include/exclude as with the other libraries. There is not fault in your logic (for the most part) - it is indeed something we have