Re: generating a standalone in v9.x

2019-11-01 Thread Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode
Thanks, JJS. I had that code ion place from Bob's suggestion but ran into the (apparent) never-ending "Attaching Engine" state. **BUT** just now I discovered, as my eye glanced over at the app's script in the Editor, the standalone build had "re-started" my application and was "stalled" on a

Re: "empty" background in printed pdf is actually grey

2019-11-01 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 11/1/19 5:27 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: Now my head is spinning . . . anything more you can tell me beyond what the dictionary says would help, as my head is spinning . . . Yeah, now that I think back on this the blendlevel would make the text transparent as well as the

Re: "empty" background in printed pdf is actually grey

2019-11-01 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Nov 1, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > > Untested, but maybe setting the opaques to true and the blendlevel to 100? A > bit counerintuitive, but ya never know... No less intuitive than there being fundamental technical reasons that it was necessary to sacrifice

Re: "empty" background in printed pdf is actually grey

2019-11-01 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
While on screen, my generated objects act correctly, being just black text with transparent background. When merging, though, the livecode pdf has grey instead of clear for the entire object generated with print to pdf. Untested, but maybe setting the opaques to true and the blendlevel

Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

2019-11-01 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Dr. Pol is Dutch. I love that show. Bob S > On Nov 1, 2019, at 15:31 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > we were very often in the Netherlands for vacation, so i seriously tried to > learn Dutch. > But it ended that the Dutch better understood me when i spoke German or >

Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

2019-11-01 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
we were very often in the Netherlands for vacation, so i seriously tried to learn Dutch. But it ended that the Dutch better understood me when i spoke German or English instead of Dutch. ;) Matthias Rebbe free tools for Livecoders: InstaMaker WinSignMaker Mac

Re: SSH and SCP in LiveCode

2019-11-01 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
Hi Mike, tsNet does support file transfers via SSH, just use sftp:// at the start of the URL instead of ftp:// or ftps://, otherwise the commands are mostly identical. Just note that not all SSH features are supported in the Indy version of LC - some require the Business edition. What are you

Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

2019-11-01 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Also a very good point ! Thanks Erik. Op 1-11-2019 om 19:43 schreef Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode: " Try to learn Dutch, if we had'nt sold New York to the Brittish you'd all talk Dutch" LOL The other point you maybe wanted to make but forgotten is to mention The Dutch East India

RE: Android - ANRs and Crashes

2019-11-01 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Some of these are BS but download the logcat and send it and the text of the error to Panos. I did that once and he found and fixed the problem. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode

Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

2019-11-01 Thread Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode
" Try to learn Dutch, if we had'nt sold New York to the Brittish you'd all talk Dutch" LOL The other point you maybe wanted to make but forgotten is to mention The Dutch East India Company, officially the United East India Company (in Dutch the VOC). VOC became the world's first formally

Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

2019-11-01 Thread JJS via use-livecode
quote : I hate to learn another language. That is why I live in the United States. /quote If we the Dutch go to Germany we talk German, if we go to France many of us not all talk French, if we go to other countries we talk mainly English. If Germans or French come to our country we talk

Re: generating a standalone in v9.x

2019-11-01 Thread JJS via use-livecode
What you need is described in the release notes from 9.x onwards Removing the command quit is not the solution use this, it is copied from the release notes: on closeStack if the environment is "development" and \ there is a stack "revStandaloneProgress" and \ the mode of stack

Android - ANRs and Crashes

2019-11-01 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
We are getting new reports in Google console -- haven't looked at it in a while, but now getting ready for a new release and I am going through every link at the developer console site, as there are new requirement I don't want to miss….now these this new thing: ANRs and Crashes it is

Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

2019-11-01 Thread dunbarx--- via use-livecode
I am with Richmond, mainly. I hate to learn another language. That is why I live in the United States. LC, if you introduce only a  handful or three of native words, controls and concepts, is accessible to anyone with a real desire to learn this sort of thing. Even a first grader; they just need

Re: generating a standalone in v9.x

2019-11-01 Thread Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode
Thanks Bob and Heather and also a thanks to Giovanni Cannizzaro. Giovanni had the minimal fix to just remove a "quit" from any "shutDownRequest". Heather from LC also offered the following code in a related situation to Giovanni's: on closeStack if the mode of stack

Re: "empty" background in printed pdf is actually grey

2019-11-01 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
On Nov 1, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Richard rumbled > > I'm certain that I don't understand the layout, because from the description > it sounds like you have an object which is not visible and therefore cannot > be printed but which is causing a problem when printed. > > I'm sure you've considered

Re: "empty" background in printed pdf is actually grey

2019-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
doc hawk wrote: > On Oct 31, 2019, at 5:42 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> >> A light gray is the system default on OS X windows. You might have >> better luck setting the stack background to opaque and white > > But if the background is opaque, it will block the text underneath > it for the

Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

2019-11-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I have a radical disagreement with Scratch and its ilk as, while it does allow one to run up simple computer games, it does not let users see the "guts" of a program, and seems not to give children transferrable skill for non-block programming languages. I have successfully started kids from 9

SSH and SCP in LiveCode

2019-11-01 Thread Mike Felker via use-livecode
Hello group. Just joined but long-time LiveCode user. I need SSH / SCP capability for LiveCode. Anyone know how to use this (either the old external or by any other means)? I do not thing TSNet will help in this case. Thanks. Mike Rubidex - The Reliable Blockchain Company

Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

2019-11-01 Thread kee nethery via use-livecode
My recommendation is to have them start with scratch.mit.edu and spend a month making stuff with that language. Scratch is built for 1st graders to pick up and it is extremely satisfying as the starter language. They get exposed to all sorts of concepts, message passing, variables, flow

Re: Release 9.5.1 RC-1

2019-11-01 Thread Jjs via use-livecode
Ok i'm surprised, as i looked yesterday the milestone was at about 55%. So i did not expect this release. Thanks! Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode schreef op 1 november 2019 16:38:39 CET: >Congratulations. > >On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 5:08 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <

Re: Release 9.5.1 RC-1

2019-11-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Congratulations. On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 5:08 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I'm a bit confused about the booleans. This seems to indicate that true <> > "true". I've been sloppy in my code, so I may have to go through and find > every instance of a

Re: my message not showing up in "use-livecode"

2019-11-01 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
me too Panos -- On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 17:16, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I saw the message here. > > Bob S > > > > On Nov 1, 2019, at 08:12 , Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > This has happened a few

Re: my message not showing up in "use-livecode"

2019-11-01 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
This sounds like it might be due to the breaking change in standalone building described in the release notes for 9.0: https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-9_0_0.pdf I quote: The standalone builder

Re: my message not showing up in "use-livecode"

2019-11-01 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I saw the message here. Bob S > On Nov 1, 2019, at 08:12 , Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode > wrote: > > This has happened a few times before... the following message never got > posted to " use-livecode@lists.runrev.com". Can you explain why? It must > have gone somewhere because

my message not showing up in "use-livecode"

2019-11-01 Thread Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode
This has happened a few times before... the following message never got posted to " use-livecode@lists.runrev.com". Can you explain why? It must have gone somewhere because Giovanni Cannizzaro [johnthejoc...@yahoo.it] responded but I certainly can see how *he* saw it but no one else

Re: Release 9.5.1 RC-1

2019-11-01 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'm a bit confused about the booleans. This seems to indicate that true <> "true". I've been sloppy in my code, so I may have to go through and find every instance of a boolean and decide how I want to treat it. Also, how will this affect database operations? "true" in a column is a string.

Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

2019-11-01 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'm not really qualified to answer that, so I was mum, but if I had to answer and couldn't be held to account... ;-) I would say that any young person who wants to become a programmer or app designer (not sure the distinction) will need a degree, pure and simple. Otherwise they will not even

Release 9.5.1 RC-1

2019-11-01 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.1 RC-1. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.5.1 RC-1 comes with more

Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?

2019-11-01 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
I was disappointed that I only got one reply to my query about LC as a platform for learning programming - I thought this was a big thing with quite a few people on this list, some of whom are actually educators. Since I’ve failed in this, can someone suggest a better way of getting an answer