Re: 60 years of the Space Age

2017-10-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
What about 34 years of Space Ace? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Ace On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > And that brings up an interesting point. Who is to say that artificial > intelligence will be any smarter than the huma

Re: mergZXing alternative

2017-10-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
There are barcode calls in mergav. There is also a sample stack that demonstrates how to use it for scanning barcodes. All the MergAV calls are documented in the dictionary. I believe the other reason why zx was deprecated was because av is faster and more accurate - at least it would appear to b

Re: mergZXing alternative

2017-10-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Which platform are you going for? mergav is for ios and osx. You can't use "search for", you have to include it manually. it works fine for me in my apps. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Andrew Bell via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I just got around to building a new v

Re: Remote debugging - expected behavior

2017-09-29 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Even when I use breakpoint, I'm having issues with remote debugging, which is QR...something. On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:56 AM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.co

Re: Remote debugging - expected behavior

2017-09-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
#x27;m not currently testing script errors, I'm testing other things and I > don't need remote debugging right now. It's getting in the way. > > > On 9/28/17 3:32 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> Then why not remove remote debugger from the (cluttered)

Re: Remote debugging - expected behavior

2017-09-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Then why not remove remote debugger from the (cluttered) inclusions list and only include it if the developer chooses 'test' (similar to what Monte was wondering in that QR). It seems weird and unnecessary, and possibly insecure to do it otherwise (insecure because if you forget to remove it from

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
well, if you have tmc2, then native mobile fields are a breeze. If you don't, then they're still pretty easy once you make your first one. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 21/09/2017 16:14, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Re: Scrolling Groups on Mobile - Show a little of what is below

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ing a scrolling wheel is a better choice for >> lists. >> >> Bob S >> >> >> > On Sep 21, 2017, at 08:14 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> > >> > I agree with J. The simplest visual c

Re: Scrolling Groups on Mobile - Show a little of what is below

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
g wheel is a better choice for > lists. > > Bob S > > > > On Sep 21, 2017, at 08:14 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > I agree with J. The simplest visual cue that there is something in the > box > > is

Re: Scrolling Groups on Mobile - Show a little of what is below

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I agree with J. The simplest visual cue that there is something in the box is for the lid to be ajar. Cabinets with the door ajar begged to be open. Doors that are mostly but not completely closed are the same way. Lists should carry the same cue. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:45 AM, Alan via use-l

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Sep 21, 2017, at 05:59 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > what do the asterisks do? > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit t

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
gt; > appear to be any direct equivalent for mobile text fields (though there > may > > be other ways to achieve the same result on mobile text fields - I really > > haven't looked at them yet). > > > > In fact, maybe that's the question I *should* ask. >

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The easiest thing to do is to use a mobile input field, but if you aren't interested in doing that, Let's see: Crazy idea that I haven't tried 1: You might be able to trap the field getting the focus, and if it does get the focus, lock the screen until you can process textChanged, keyDown, etc., r

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
did that work, alex? On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > If you have a mobile text field object, then have you looked at > inputReturnKey? > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> I'm sure there must be

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
If you have a mobile text field object, then have you looked at inputReturnKey? On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I'm sure there must be an easy way I'm missing . he said in hope :-) > > I want a field to contain a single

Re: How to debug a hard crash of a windows standalone nowadays?

2017-09-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I generally embed debugging code so I can find out where the issue is. You can write info to a log file, a dialog, etc. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I have a windows standalone that has been moved from

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
you've got a provisioning profile issue, so the install is failing silently. It's documented in bug report xx. To figure out what the heck is going on, do the install using xcode and you'll get the error message. After you have the PP issue resolved, testing directly on the device will work.

Re: Need a MergAV for dummies guide

2017-09-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
PINK: Any luck? What version of LC are you using? There was an issue and a special build for mergav a bit ago, but I think that's been fixed. I'm using mergAV in several apps, with no issues. On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 4:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> w

Re: Script Editor Autocomplete Optional?

2017-09-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I agree that it will also be nice if more people use it because it will encourage more verbose, easier to read syntax use. Now...can we get code folding and block marking? Can we? Can we? PLEEEASE? On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:13 AM, prothero--- via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.ru

Re: Script Editor Autocomplete Optional?

2017-09-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Question from the blog post ( https://livecode.com/new-autocomplete-live-errors-in-livecode-8-2/) In the snippet manager, you only define the name:type pair once, the first time that it is used, in the examples. Other places in the script, you only list the name. Does the name:type line have to a

Re: [ANN] Release 8.2.0 DP-1

2017-09-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
wow. there are lots of autocomplete suggestions on bugzilla, already. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:43 AM, James At The Hale via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Community Plus is a brilliant idea. > Fills the gaping void that Apple inflicted on us by not allowing the > Communi

Re: Script Editor Autocomplete Optional?

2017-09-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Maybe a little more nuanced control over it would be nice, but turning it on/off is a start. For example, I'd like to be able to use a shortcut to use it when I want it - perhaps option-tab or something similar. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@l

[off]8/8+/X

2017-09-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'd say LC should be putting some more effort into Android. I feel even more of a shift coming. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I wonder why it won't even start for me, now. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:28 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 9/7/17 12:17 AM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: > >> >> On 7 Sep 2017, at 3:15 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
20332 on this bug. Now I've got at least one or two more RD bugs that I'm working on reporting - one is the crash, the other is one that seems to be causing RD to not work at all for me, either. 20333 on the mergAV/remote debug crash I built a little sample app to see if I could further diagnose

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
7;t mind, can you > file one? > > BTW what was the exact error? > > Best, > Panos > -- > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Yeah, I just discovered that a little while ago. So, is

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
dalone and try to install the app on the > device using Xcode. This will (hopefully) show an error dialog with a > descriptive msg when it tries to install the app into the phone. > > Best, > Panos > -- > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
the phone and your machine use he same > internet connection > > Best, > Panos > -- > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > You also have to set the test target, and make sure your device

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
You also have to set the test target, and make sure your device is recognized. Yesterday, for example, the phone I was using to test kept disappearing from the list, so I had to disconnect/reconnect it. I didn't come up with a recipe that would let the team dive in and try to fix it. On Tue, Sep

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm having a slightly different problem on ios that I'm trying to diagnose - doing remote debugging with mergAV causes the mobile app to crash. On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On 5 Sep 2017, at 9:03 am, Alex Tweedly via

Re: Subject: Re: LC and OneSignal

2017-09-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I always ask, first. I want the author involved in ensuring that I have the thing maintained and up-to-date. On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > > I'm doing this in github, now. When I see something or

Re: Subject: Re: LC and OneSignal

2017-09-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm doing this in github, now. When I see something or someone brings something to my attention, I'm adding a repo for it. It makes the version control, change notification, etc. easier, imho. On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >

Re: [off]macbook model

2017-09-01 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
it looks like the same dock, just two different brands On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > If you get a new MacBook Pro with Thunderbolt-3 (USB-C) ports > there are a couple of nice docks which will split out most of the > stand

Re: [off]macbook model

2017-09-01 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
who, cook? I know. I was screaming about it when Jobs was still alive, and all he's done is prove me right. Yes on SSD's - we don't order anything without them. They make such a gigantic difference in a machine's lifespan, and seem to improve performance much more than a stronger processor or me

[off]macbook model

2017-08-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm thinking of replacing my 2011 macbook air with a new macbook, but I'm torn on which one to go for. Primary uses are going to be LC development and browser goodness. Before anyone chimes in about Windoze or LInux, I already have both of those covered. Things I'm wondering about: 1) Screen real

Re: Group mouseup

2017-08-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
That seems like a better idea, anyway, since if you ungroup the objects, wouldn't you lose the script? On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I take that back. Just a transparent button will do. You do not have to > mess with the b

Re: Text (uni)coding issue

2017-08-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Any reason why you're using binfile instead of file if the text isn't encoded? On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Andrew Bell via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have a database on a LiveCode server that I use to track user > interactions in a LiveCode app. It has gotten t

Re: Site won't load

2017-08-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
from https://developer.apple.com/library/content/releasenotes/General/WhatsNewIniOS/Articles/iOS9.html App Transport Security App Transport Security (ATS) enforces best practices in the secure connections between an app and its back end. ATS prevents accidental disclosure, provides secure default

Re: What's Happening with TactileMedia?

2017-08-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
And I'm guessing that we all just caught the DNS changeover - earlier, if I went to tactilemedia.com, it came back empty, but now it redirects correctly. On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > There are a bunch of us that keep bugging Scott about doing two things: > 1) OSS'ing tmc

Re: What's Happening with TactileMedia?

2017-08-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
There are a bunch of us that keep bugging Scott about doing two things: 1) OSS'ing tmc (but the source is unlocked, so if you pay or it, you get the source, anyway, and it's pretty easy to read) or 2) Making tmc3. The problem with this is that until components and widgets settle down, there is a g

Re: Native Mobile Radio Buttons - Focus on Entry Field on Mobile

2017-08-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
for starters, get scott's tmControls2. They just look better. as for the focus, how are you trying to do it? are you using "focus on"? "click at the loc of"? On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > > OK I successfully built a little custom Contro

Re: Sierra update --> Xcode install --> LC no provisioning profile

2017-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
xcode 8.3 and 8.3.3 On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Well, as usual, upgrading OS X and doing an install of Xcode causes LC > 8.0.01 not to find any provisioning profile and wants iOS 9.3 SDK. > > The Xcode shows a 10.3 SDK so

Re: Daybed 2.0 - A Library for Apache CouchDB

2017-08-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Greg, That was a really cool talk, yesterday. It got me thinking about Couch as a maybe a new go-to option for cloud db's. On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 7:36 PM, pink via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Apache has released CouchDB 2.1 and Daybed is still compatible. > > The libr

Re: [ot] Richardevm pollution

2017-08-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Why not put a tag, note, etc. somewhere on the forums site, or in message footers to that effect so 15 weeks from now I don't have to try to remember that? 15 was also the number of forum posts that resulted in emails to me before the massacare, this morning. On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Rich

Re: Using '@' to mark pass-by-reference (was Re: synonyms)

2017-08-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I was going to reply to something, but part way through the last message, my brain melted and I stated thinking in 8088 assembler. I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS! The reason for forgetting is because it is not something that I, at least, will be tempted to use very often, on the order of "this me" So if

Re: Developing first on android

2017-08-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Sorry, I assumed everyone was at Global, yesterday. During the keynote, an interview with Digital Pomegranate was shown. During that interview, there was a lengthy explanation about building LC apps, and things that they do. On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-li

[ot] Richardevm pollution

2017-08-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
We have another abuser on the forums Admins! Attack! -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good."

Re: Using '@' to mark pass-by-reference (was Re: synonyms)

2017-08-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
te: > On 2017-08-18 15:21, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> So how about trying to make it a little easier to read, and using "->" >> instead (a 4D way of identifying pointers)? The position of the symbol >> indicates if we have are referencing or derefe

Re: Using '@' to mark pass-by-reference (was Re: synonyms)

2017-08-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
So how about trying to make it a little easier to read, and using "->" instead (a 4D way of identifying pointers)? The position of the symbol indicates if we have are referencing or dereferencing. ->a is a reference to a (pointer to a), and a-> is dereferencing a (give me what a is pointing to).

Re: Developing first on android

2017-08-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
There might be another way to skin this cat. I liked what Pomegranate said, which would also be a way to make apps even more levure/git-friendly, and would, I think, solve some of the Android layout issues that she was discussing - every object is created by a script, instead of using the LC IDE t

Re: Using Touch ID with Keychain and LocalAuthentication

2017-08-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Why not open a session with your server and have it transmit a key that is unique to the device/user? On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Todd Fabacher via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hello Mark or Monte or any knowledgeable soul, > > > We are working with the United Natio

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I've been threatening to build/working on an LC push server library, but it's on the back burner, right now, and probably will be until the end of the year, at the earliest. • First, go to quality.livecode.com, and add yourself to the cc list for bug 10901 and 18692. Those are for various improvem

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I disagree with Ben on the effort of rolling your own. The first one is probably some work, until you understand how push works, but after you understand, it is pretty easy. On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > erm... nothing is

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I got a message that one of my other messages was moderated for being too large. I can't see if it got delivered, or not, so in response to Bill's question about the repo: If you mean having the mobile do it, I hadn't thought about that. It might be possible with tsnet. He is not simulating any

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
You have to have the app phone home with its id. The id is determined by the device, and is a product of the device and the app running on it that is to receive notifications. You can phone home via a filesharing service, an online db, contacting a webserver, etc. For distinguishing between the

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
You have to have the app phone home with its id. The id is determined by the device, and is a product of the device and the app running on it that is to receive notifications. You can phone home via a filesharing service, an online db, contacting a webserver, etc. For distinguishing between the

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
t direction. > > Best, > Bill > > William Prothero > http://es.earthednet.org > > > On Aug 15, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > app push is pretty easy/straightforward in LC, but there are multi

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
app push is pretty easy/straightforward in LC, but there are multiple QR's out to add features/fix things on them. On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:01 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thanks, Stephen: > What we are using as a preliminary solution is a mass

Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Yeah, a few more community moderators would be welcome. On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Am 12.08.2017 um 23:47 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > > > > Thank you - I'm sure t

Re: String delimiters [WAS Re: common code patterns]

2017-08-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
So you don't like &CR& ? On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 08/14/2017 03:28 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: > >> While we (i.e. you) are thinking about string delimiters, could we PLEASE >> have some decent way to

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
That is not easier to read. On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On 12 Aug 2017, at 1:37 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > So, let me rephrase - what are the use-cases pe

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ace that allows the rest of us to continue as-is. On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-08-11 16:35, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> Unless I read your post incorrectly, mark, "Do" w

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Unless I read your post incorrectly, mark, "Do" works just fine, at least for ad hoc apps, as well it better, because it is a critically important part of trying to debug mobile apps at runtime, with some of the rather annoying things that happen at runtime, like some failure in a script causing th

Re: Bug 20255 - Simple Loop Labeling

2017-08-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I like and use end if #some complicated condition On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On 11 Aug 2017, at 11:54 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > What would you put as a co

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
So back to my original question, and my original comment - you're talking about macros? See my first reply. On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Monte Goulding wrote: > > Sorry folks I should have been more specific and said u

Re: App Rejected: IPv6 network?

2017-08-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I didn't know that downloading stacks onto an app was ever a problem. It's not downloading a file of any sort that has been a no-no, it's loading executable code, which LC scripts are not, and LC stacks are not. On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ick on ralph, and how about if we just get rid of case/switch, and tell everyone to use if/else if/else/end if On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > FWIW I'm with Jacque on this one. Not only are exclusive blocks far more > com

Re: Bug 20255 - Simple Loop Labeling

2017-08-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
It can, but as of now we don't have another good way of matching structures on a permanent basis so that if you, for instance, remove the "if" or "repeat" on the top, the "end if" or "end repeat" on the bottom goes away, too, or if you change the condition the label on the end changes. On Thu, Aug

Re: Bug 20255 - Simple Loop Labeling

2017-08-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I do this, in my code, too. I also label my else's (with the opposite of the condition, of course) 4D's macros have a cool way of making this happen. for example, to make a labeled if type the text of the condition Select the text Insert the if macro The condition is replaced with if condition the

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Do I sense macros? I have several things that I frequently end up typing that aren't vanilla: for any structure - repeat/if/case/etc., I normally want the "end" to have a comment matching the beginning if i=2 then something end if #i=2 I also frequently use code blocks that I want to label #

Re: Script Editor Window being bl**dy-minded

2017-08-08 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
blandy-minded? On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:45 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Is there an option for when you don't know its name and the stack is > completely off-screen? > > ~Roger > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:32 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <

Re: Sorting out the sheep from the goats

2017-08-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I think you have an error in your code samples. Your vowel set should be "aeiouandsometimesy" On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thanks Tore and Mike. > > Richmond. > > > On 8/7/17 8:52 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wr

Re: How do you detect the necessary inclusions?

2017-08-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
So in 8.1.6, if I have search selected, and then I do a build, and then I select manual, the auto-found ones are no longer selected? On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:53 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thank you for clearifying! > Tiemo > > -Ursprünglic

Re: Help needed with a nasty bug

2017-08-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Can we have more info on the configurations of the folks seeing this? Win version Machine config VM - Y/N, brand, version ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscript

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

2017-08-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I don't know the first thing about Rethink, but have you thought about using odbc? On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Thierry Douez via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > 2017-08-03 17:00 GMT+02:00 Bob Sneidar: > > I poked around on their web site. > > What is the advantage of th

Re: Mark in a kilt...

2017-08-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
were they from north of the wall? On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I used to play marching drums in a Scottish bagpipe band. We were good > too. Won 1st place in the DC 4th of July parade once. We had excellent > instructors.

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
My perception is that the web experience is very close to a desktop-native experience, and the two are almost interchangable. Running an app in a browser feels and works almost the same as a native one does. However, once you get to mobile, the web app experience is nowhere on par. Even mobile w

Re: How can I scrape text from a web page that is generated by javascript?

2017-07-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
to a CSV, then read the CSV into LC > and use the data. But how to automate the scraping and CSV saving at a > given interval, I'm not there yet. > > ~Roger > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> w

Re: How can I scrape text from a web page that is generated by javascript?

2017-07-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
> grab. > > > > ~Roger > > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> Don't know what to tell you. I scrape a few hundred thousand pages at a > >> tim

Re: How can I scrape text from a web page that is generated by javascript?

2017-07-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
2.168.1.87 and > it tells me it's not a valid URL!!! That is strike 3 for me when I > encounter that kind of problem. Even if I load the full url default page > for that device, then copy paste the URL it STILL tells me it's invalid. > > Bob S > > > > On Jul 24, 20

Re: How can I scrape text from a web page that is generated by javascript?

2017-07-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Roger, I use a chrome plugin called "Web Scraper", and then I process the CSV in LC - then again, I'm usually scraping many many many pages, and this automates the process. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: iPad portrait size stack doesn't fit to display

2017-07-22 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
sign on to my feature request/bug report from whenever it was. Also, Scott has a plugin called revNavigator that acts like the old HC positioning palette. It lets you move any open LC window around as you need to. On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Antti Ilola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists

Re: Livecode on iPod

2017-07-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Yes, and good luck deploying to it. On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > UDID > > FFF "fake" > > ? > > But developer.apple.com device portal accepts them… > > ?? > > BR > > > > On 7/15/17, 4:24 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Colin Holgate via

Re: iOS "Invalid Entitlements"

2017-07-13 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
annnd it looks like this might be a case of the issue being related to appID's being case sensitive. ugh. On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Trying to debug invalid entitlements, and I'm not seeing the problem. > Compiles fine, codesigns fine. I don't run into an issue

Re: Codesigning fail LC 8.1.5, Xocde 8.3.3

2017-07-13 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I just got a reply from Apple. The drop-down list isn't for filtering, it's just so you can select which cert you wish to add, which was not clear to me. On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Bob, > I have filed a bug report with Apple. Every time I go into XC 8.3.x, open > the

Re: Codesigning fail LC 8.1.5, Xocde 8.3.3

2017-07-13 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Bob, I have filed a bug report with Apple. Every time I go into XC 8.3.x, open the settings, and hit "Manage Certificates", it creates a new developer cert and a new distribution cert. On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:29 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >

Re: iOS "Invalid Entitlements"

2017-07-13 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Trying to debug invalid entitlements, and I'm not seeing the problem. Compiles fine, codesigns fine. I don't run into an issue until installing on a physical device. I have checked the physical device's UDID to confirm that it is in the ProvisionedDevices section relevant output from codesign: ge

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

2017-07-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Configurable would be great, because that would be the start of having Macros, and having those macros be configurable, and having them be able to do things like using the hilited text to build a structure On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5

2017-07-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
h [ sudo xcode-select -r ] in > > terminal and all works correctly now. This is with Xcode 8.3 installed in > > the default Applications folder. I haven’t tried updating Xcode to 8.3.3 > > just yet though! > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > &g

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5

2017-07-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ouble click on the profile you downloaded, > and Xcode will place it in /Users//Library/ > MobileDevice/Provisioning > Profiles/ > > Now, about the codesign issue itself, I will have a look at the bug report > later this week. > > @Richmond > Why moderately exciting, an

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5

2017-07-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
e terminal output if you type "xcode-select -p"? > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I was able to get the build to get further by switching the ios version > to > > the latest one

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5

2017-07-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I was able to get the build to get further by switching the ios version to the latest one (10.3), but now I'm getting a codesigning failed, segmentation fault 11 error. Bug 20030. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit t

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5

2017-07-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ow_bug.cgi?id=19080 >> >> Best >> Panos >> -- >> >> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> > Anyone else getting a persistent "linking for arm" erro

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5

2017-07-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
f I retry to build. > > http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19080 > > Best > Panos > -- > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Anyone else getting a persistent "linking

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5

2017-07-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Anyone else getting a persistent "linking for arm" error when trying to build with 8.1.5? On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 9:23 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Dear List Members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.5 Stable. By > "St

Re: [OT] Renewing Apple Developer ID Installer Certificate

2017-07-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
That's only true for apps in the app store. For corporate apps/apps you distribute privately, you have to rebuild them every year with new certs. On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 2:47 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Marty, > even if your certificate expi

Re: Goofy question #7234

2017-07-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
In the newfangled LC world, you can even do things the way the engine can - using "return for value" (or just "return") and "return for error" to allow commands to return values, too. Then "it" gets values that are returned, and "the result" gets errors that are returned. 9 is fun. funfunfunfunf

Re: Feature Race: Pick Your Project

2017-07-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Wow. I'm surprised we aren't closer to getting this funded. c'mon y'all let's get this funded! On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > I had similar feelings, (I have taken almost every pitch to "pay in > advance for X number of years for this disc

Re: Is there Digital Clock Component out there?

2017-06-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Time crunch...no pun intended! > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Why not just use a field and write one? > > _

Re: Is there Digital Clock Component out there?

2017-06-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
That's what I did with the Timeclock app that I wrote (I'm replacing shop floor timeclocks with ipads). On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Why not just use a field and write one? > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created th

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