Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2

Why need there be such a long-winded discussion anent download time? Surely we are all not so impatient a 90 minute or so wait is not that significant to move from a Release Candidate to a Stable version? Richmond. On 22.05.21 19:04, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: It was Thursday,

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2

It was Thursday, the day after the announcement, mid-afternoon Central time. But part of the problem may have been on my end, recently our bandwidth has been dropping to unacceptable speeds sporadically. Never down in the kilobyte ranges though. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2

That's better! Op 21-5-2021 om 11:31 schreef Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode: JeeJeeStudio: > And wow got me a massive 30KB/sec download > while my download speedtest is 74.87Mbps... > That's the speed back in 1996... That happens to me a lot. Like the T3 cyborg using dial-up in the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2

Directly from the download page downloads.livecode.com. In previous times this was, for me, at normal speeds. I know others suffered from slow downloads. All the best, Jerry Op 21-5-2021 om 11:38 schreef Heather Laine via use-livecode: Were you downloading direct from your account or via

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2

Jacqueline: > Just a data point: yesterday I downloaded 9.6.2 stable directly > from the download page and got about 500 kb/second. It took a > very long time to get the file. Yes! That's my typical experience. (Except lower than 500 kb.) LC download usually takes forever, and sometimes fails

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2

Just a data point: yesterday I downloaded 9.6.2 stable directly from the download page and got about 500 kb/second. It took a very long time to get the file. I figured something was going on with the server. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2

Were you downloading direct from your account or via the updater? I thought we'd fixed the updater in this respect. What version of LiveCode were you updating from if you did use the updater? Best Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com > On

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2

JeeJeeStudio: > And wow got me a massive 30KB/sec download > while my download speedtest is 74.87Mbps... > That's the speed back in 1996... That happens to me a lot. Like the T3 cyborg using dial-up in the past. But I'm happy to report an LC 9.6.2 download at 5 MB/sec! From East Coast

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2

Great! And wow got me a massive 30KB/sec download while my download speedtest is 74.87Mbps... That's the speed back in 1996... Op 18-5-2021 om 16:55 schreef panagiotis merakos via use-livecode: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 STABLE.

[ANN] Release 9.6.2

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 STABLE. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.6.2 STABLE comes with 49

[ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-6

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-6. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-6 comes with 3

[ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-5

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-5. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-5 comes with 2

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

Many thanks mark for explaining. So the IDE is a real 32 bit or a real 64bit application. Am I understanding it correct that it is the same for the executable an LC user/devbuilds for Windows? the build of a stack is a real 64bit? Op di 13 apr. 2021 om 18:09 schreef Mark Waddingham via

RE: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

Phone: 626 6965561 -Original Message- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:09 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Mark Waddingham Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4 On 2021-04-13 16:46, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > Hi M

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

On 2021-04-13 16:46, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Hi Mark. I downloaded LC 9.6.2 for Windows and installed it on a Server 2012 VM. It installed in the Program Files (x86) folder. I was under the impression that only happens when the app is a 32 bit app. Then you downloaded the 32-bit

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

Hi Mark. I downloaded LC 9.6.2 for Windows and installed it on a Server 2012 VM. It installed in the Program Files (x86) folder. I was under the impression that only happens when the app is a 32 bit app. Are you implying the standalones are 64 bit but the LC app is 32? If that were the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

On 2021-04-13 16:15, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Do the release notes need updating? Hah! Yes - we've had a 64-bit windows build (separate installer) available since 9.5. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

On 4/13/21 4:48 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: No - its either running as a 32-bit app (if you have installed the 32-bit version of LC) or as a 64-bit app (if you have installed the 64-bit version of LC) - there's no emulation going on - the difference is the processor mode the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

On 2021-04-09 22:25, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Ya so LC for Windows is basically running in an emulator. No - its either running as a 32-bit app (if you have installed the 32-bit version of LC) or as a 64-bit app (if you have installed the 64-bit version of LC) - there's no

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

> On 9 Apr 2021, at 20:49, JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode > wrote: > > Of course it's 32bits, even the builds are 32bits on windows except they are > packed in a 64bit container. I’m not sure about that because my Surface Pro X can only run x86-32 apps and it can run LiveCode. If it was

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

Ya so LC for Windows is basically running in an emulator. Bob S > On Apr 9, 2021, at 12:49 , JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode > wrote: > > Of course it's 32bits, even the builds are 32bits on windows except they are > packed in a 64bit container. > > PLease correct me if I'm wrong > > Op

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

Of course it's 32bits, even the builds are 32bits on windows except they are packed in a 64bit container. PLease correct me if I'm wrong Op 8-4-2021 om 17:00 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode: To be fail, I do not think the problem is Livecode, I think it’s Windows, and I am not sure

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

At the turn of the century, so soon after HyperCard's death, it was understandable that Mac users would be disproportionately represented among LC customers. For this to remain the case more than two decades later -- long past the time when most devs have never heard of HyperCard, Windows

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

I'm running it over vnc to a remote server on a single core (2.4Ghz), 4gb virtual system running Win Server 2016 standard. I edit my code there directly and have only partial lag due mostly to the screen share, dropbox scanning and single core nature of it. I've often made my feelings known about

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

To be fail, I do not think the problem is Livecode, I think it’s Windows, and I am not sure there is much LC can do to get around whatever it is causing these issues. It could be that LC is still a 32 bit app (it installs in the 32 bit app folder). Bob S On Apr 8, 2021, at 7:45 AM, Andre

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

LiveCode is wy less responsive on Windows than on a Mac. The script editor hangs all the time, even when you turn off all the smart stuff. Removing it from defender and stuff helps but doesn’t solve the problem. LC is quite neglected on Windows and Linux. I understand that mac is the money

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

Lagi, I feel your pain, I do. However, I only see a moderate amount of unresponsiveness and I can usually put it down to the way I use it on Windoze in a VM on a Mac. The stack I am working on at the moment takes 5 seconds to save on mac side but 30 seconds on the Win10. My colleague running on a

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

I just DL LC 9.6.2 RC4 on a Windows VM running Server 2012R2. Saving is much faster, although not quite up to speed with the Mac OS. Querying a database however seems to be quite slow. When running a tick counter on my MacOS I get this: sites: 7 devices: 4 accessories: 6 service: 7 service: 6

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

On 4/7/2021 3:57 PM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote: Unresponsive to me is typing 10 characters and seeing them appear one by 1 after I have finished typing , or waiting for 3 4 or more seconds between each debugger step .. I'm not saying you're not seeing an unacceptable slow down on

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

Hi Lagi, What unresponsiveness in windows 10 are you referring to? the one that needs wait 0 with messages to avoid a frozen window? I just reported what i think is a bug that has been there for years and thats endless high cpu usage when using -ui flag . on WIndows 10 ... and 7. I think. I

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

Hi The unresponsiveness in Big Su is fixed and Ive only been asking for 3 or 4 years that the unresponsiveness in windows 10 (and probably 7) is fixed. I have a 10th generation core I7 with 16G of ram and it runs like molasses - especially when using the debugger. Ive tried EVERYTHING short of

[ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-4. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-4 comes with 1

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

Just out of interest, do you see this just with the Livecode IDE or also with a Livecode standalone? - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code > Am 17.03.2021 um 09:19 schrieb Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode > : > > Ok, after a day or so it creeps back. Unplug extra monitor, restart

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

Ok, after a day or so it creeps back. Unplug extra monitor, restart LiveCode, plug in extra monitor. Annoying, but maybe not a showstopper... I only see this with LiveCode and not any of my other apps. :-Håkan On 16 Mar 2021, 08:08 +0100, Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode , wrote: > Thanks to

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

That nonsense about extra monitors seems to be a MacOS 11 "thing". I generally have 2 powered USB hubs connected via my USB-C to HDMI monitor things: if they are connected when I start up no video signal is sent to either my right or my left monitor, only to the central one. If, having started

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

Thanks to everyone testing this! Trashing the prefs didn’t help, trashing all files in the ”Application support”-folder didn’t help! But, I tried to unplug my second monitor… Started LC and then, everything worked! Plugged the monitor back again, end now, it works! Now I can even click the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

I just downloaded and tested on my MBP16(2019), single screen, MacOS 11.2.2, and also in parallels Win10(v1909) and had no issues. BTW, visual effects work a dream and even macOS CoreImage effects work great. Super. Hope to see more (HTML5, hint, hint) soon. Sean On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 at 18:28,

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

I knew I was being stupid relying on the alphabet. Thanks Panos. Graham > On 15 Mar 2021, at 09:01, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hello Graham, > > * and this particular LC version number isn’t in the list on the > offline activation file tool. * > > Are you sure? If

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

Thanks for that! I haven’t had time to trash all settings and restart, but it is good to see that it is probably something on my part. Will do further testing tomorrow. :-Håkan On 15 Mar 2021, 19:30 +0100, Richmond via use-livecode , wrote: > I have just downloaded Indy 9.6.2 RC-3, done the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

I have just downloaded Indy 9.6.2 RC-3, done the licensing "dance" and fired it up without any problems at all: macOS 11.3 Beta 3, 2018 Mac Mini, 3 monitors. I suspect you have some background process (i.e. something set to run at startup) that is clogging up the works. Best, Richmond. On

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

I have not experienced this (Windows 10), but in the ast, similar new version startup issues have been resolved by deleting the livecode preferences file and then starting the new version to reset the prefs to defaults (and then set them back to whatever you want. On 3/15/2021 2:04 PM, Dev

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

I am also seeing that with a Mac Pro laptop, Big Sur and two monitors. Sometimes it will be responsive on a second try restart, but then it won’t let me open the script of an object. Impossible to work with so I went back to RC-2. Kelly Janz > On 15 Mar, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Håkan Liljegren via

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

After downloading and activating with my indie license, LiveCode starts but is totally unresponsive! I can move the windows, but that’s it! I can’t click anything not even in the menu. No shortcuts works, and, If I select ”Quit” from the icon in the dock LiveCode doesn’t quit. Only thing I can

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

Hello Graham, * and this particular LC version number isn’t in the list on the offline activation file tool. * Are you sure? If I remember correctly, you have to scroll further down for the RC and DP versions Kind regards, Panos -- On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 at 10:48, Graham Samuel via

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

Boring I know, but after a long download I can’t activate this automatically, and this particular LC version number isn’t in the list on the offline activation file tool. Someone please tell me what I did wrong. Graham > On 12 Mar 2021, at 11:55, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode >

[ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-3

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-3. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-3 comes with 6

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

michael mentioned, > Yesterday I downloaded SuperCard 4.8.1 Trail wich still is maintained. I still have my SuperCard 1.5 install disks . . . I bought it because it could have two windows open at once. When HyperCard 2.0 came out, it did everything I needed from supercard, but there was no

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

Michael Kristensen wrote: > Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> We've been here before... >> >> 68k -> PPC >> Classic -> OS X >> PPC -> Intel >> 32-bit -> 64-bit > > > More form memory-land: > > Yesterday I downloaded SuperCard 4.8.1 Trail wich still is maintained. > > I was able to convert some 30 years

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

Supercard is no longer very super (remember playing around with it in 1994) as it is 32-bit MacOS only. Richmond. On 14.01.21 12:53, David V Glasgow via use-livecode wrote: I paid for the Windows version of SuperCard that was advertised in MacUser for some considerable time in the ?mid 90s.

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

Gawd… now that you mention it, I did too! Bob S On Jan 14, 2021, at 2:53 AM, David V Glasgow via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: I paid for the Windows version of SuperCard that was advertised in MacUser for some considerable time in the ?mid 90s. I waited, and

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

On 1/14/2021 5:53 AM, David V Glasgow via use-livecode wrote: I paid for the Windows version of SuperCard that was advertised in MacUser for some considerable time in the ?mid 90s. I waited, and waited, and waited…. Me too! ___ use-livecode

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

I paid for the Windows version of SuperCard that was advertised in MacUser for some considerable time in the ?mid 90s. I waited, and waited, and waited…. > On 13 Jan 2021, at 8:00 pm, Michael Kristensen via use-livecode > wrote: > > Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> We've been here before... >>

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

Richard Gaskin wrote: > We've been here before... > > 68k -> PPC > Classic -> OS X > PPC -> Intel > 32-bit -> 64-bit More form memory-land: Yesterday I downloaded SuperCard 4.8.1 Trail wich still is maintained. I was able to convert some 30 years old SC stacks so they could run again (at

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

The transition to AS Mac OS will be pretty seamless. XCode flags up most of the code base that needs modding. Where it might fall over for us is if we use old widgets that won't get updated for any potential MacOS code deprecations. But LC, I'm sure, will keep up-to-date (ish) as we see already.

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

I look forward to the day I can transition to an ARM based Mac. Those puppies are amazingly fast and it’s unlikely Windows machines will be competitive at the same price point. But … I’ll be using my Mac Book Air for years to come, it’s only 6 years old. Kee > On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:47 PM,

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

I am afraid i am at a crossroads now. Unfortunately prices for Mac hardware increased over the years. I will definitely not buy a M1 Mac. I will use my iMac as long as i get updates for macOS and will then switch back completely to Windows. Most of the software i am using is available for macOS

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

I’ve no worries with LC. My concern is all the other apps I bought which the devs don’t port. Bob S > On Jan 12, 2021, at 10:32 AM, chaplais via use-livecode > wrote: > > I have gone through this too . The most difficult was the change of OS. Also, > Apple had not ported MPW to the PPC,

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

Talking about how old we feel, when I first began with computers, we were using CP/M. Bob S On Jan 12, 2021, at 10:32 AM, chaplais via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: I have gone through this too . The most difficult was the change of OS. Also, Apple had not

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

I have gone through this too . The most difficult was the change of OS. Also, Apple had not ported MPW to the PPC, which led to the success of Metrowerks   CodeWarrior. I stil have a compiler by them for BeOs on PPC. This does not really make me feel younger. Le 12 janv. 2021 à 19:13 +0100,

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

Bob Sneidar wrote: > Up until the time Apple decides everything has to be M1, at which > support for Rosetta is withdrawn. The question is, how long do Intel > apps have to live? Deja Vu all over again. (see what I did there?) We've been here before... 68k -> PPC Classic -> OS X PPC -> Intel

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

Up until the time Apple decides everything has to be M1, at which support for Rosetta is withdrawn. The question is, how long do Intel apps have to live? Deja Vu all over again. (see what I did there?) Bob S > On Jan 12, 2021, at 6:11 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

Hello Andre, The current x86_64 (i.e. Intel-based) build of LiveCode, as well as any x86_64 standalones created by it, are expected to run seamlessly on M1 Macs, via "Rosetta" (i.e. the translation/compatibility layer that enables a M1 Mac to run apps built for an Intel-based Mac). The M1 Mac

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

Hi Panos, Is there a potential ETA for M1 support? Best Andre On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 09:13, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-2. > > > Getting the Release >

[ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-2

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-2. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-2 comes with 5

[ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-1

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-1. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-1 comes with more