Here Tumbler pics:
http://occupygezipics.tumblr.com/
Jenix (pepper spray) added to the water cannons.
Interesting though http://www.jenixbibergazi.com/en/... what is that
gazi.com at the end for?
endernafi wrote
they confessed that they added tear gas solution to the water they
cannoned to
@paolo
I'm fine so far; thank you very, very much...
@richmond
I'm following Bulgaria and Brazil.
There's a big difference, though:
Both Plevneliev and Rousseff thanked to the protestors,
acknowledged that *protesting is a democratic right*
and accepted the demands of the people {well, mostly}.
Dear Ender,
Non-violent civil disobedience and time may run against their control plans,
check mate and block all the power behind any fright and unlimited violence
policy and mafia businesses.
...
one more thing: the chief editor of tv channel Kanal24, Yigit Bulut, claimed
that some evil
Ender,
Erdogan needs violence to legitimate its own position against anyone in and
outside Turkey. If he finds it, it will just have to react to it to improve its
position in policy terms. Else, he will fails and, to the end, get out of the
way…
Ender,
The news coming out of Instanbul doesn't sound good. If you are
able, please let us know if you are OK or not.
Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan
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My family and I are also hoping you and yours are OK - we send you greetings
and best wishes...
Dave
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Ender,
please let us know if you and your family are OK.
I wish you all the best
Paolo
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Dave Kilroy2
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Ender
My family and I are also hoping you and yours are OK - we send you
greetings
and best wishes...
Dave
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dave, tim and all my dear friends out there;
my sincere thanks to all of you...
i won't / can' t write long.
*last night, they emptied gezi park following erdogan's direct orders.
*the attack was brutal as always.
find the statements of claudia roth (german green party), google it, youtube
it.
On 06/16/2013 05:13 PM, Ender Nafi wrote:
dave, tim and all my dear friends out there;
my sincere thanks to all of you...
i won't / can' t write long.
*last night, they emptied gezi park following erdogan's direct orders.
*the attack was brutal as always.
find the statements of claudia roth
Hi Ender,
How was the weekend?
I don't know if they can delete this thread for getting dangerously close to
political ravings. I hope you have another method to communicate to us/me
if it does.
I have to admit the lack of (major) destruction of personal property is
fantastic, with such a large
Hey guys,
It's pretty bad in here,
police attacked taksim, many wounded, some very serious.
They also entered the biggest courthouse of Istanbul and gathered many lawyers
{50+} forcefully
without a court order which is illegal as you know.
I'll post later a more detailed message about what
Ender,
your messages from Istanbul are very interesting and I hope you will keep
on informing us about the riots in Turkey. All in all this is the
revolution mailing list, so you are not completely out of topic ;-)
I will be in Istanbul in July and I am sure I will love your country.
I know what
guys,
it's very, very bad in here.
I'd prefer to be beaten by police :)
gas is worse when it's used so much, so dense :/
watch cnn international,
it airs taksim live.
keep safe,
pray for us {and me :-) }
warmest wishes from istanbul,
ender nafi
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Ender, I've been watching this all day and am getting madder and madder -
the tyranny is WORLD WIDE, it may not be better here at some point,
although there many here don't see it and sit there like sheep. I expect
to see similar scenes in our cities at some point.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:23
Ender,
CS Gas can often be passively drawn in by fires to neutralize some of the
effects.
Burning barricades?
Regards,
Andrew
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:33 PM, stephen barncard
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:
Ender, I've been watching this all day and am getting madder and madder -
we've used water buckets to neutralize gas capsules.
but the first attack at 19.00 was bad.
the crowd was huge, nowhere to run and they used too, too many gas.
and the worst part is,
we weren't prepared 'cause we didn't expect.
the governor had PROMISED not to attack.
thus, many of us brought
Ender,
Today, the front shows up in Istanbul but, it's walking all around over/against
us and will do so until we get le bon-sens ??! and, more decisive, the
courage to ground the laws of the next for coming times. Are we going to get
strong enough to merit something else than tyranny ? Are we
Please, give them the protection to stay away from this as much as possible…
Le 12 juin 2013 à 03:15, Ender Nafi a écrit :
CHILDREN FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, CHILDREN!!
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www.sahores-conseil.com
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Sounds terrible Ender, but I was surprised by this:
the governor had PROMISED not to attack.
thus, many of us brought children.
Really? After the previous week's events people thought this might be a safe
place to bring chilren?!?
Wishing you well,
Gerry
On 06/10/2013 03:05 PM, Paul Maguire wrote:
On 9 Jun 2013, at 16:34, Richmond wrote:
And it must be stopped.
And why, forbye?
Because it's delusional affectation of the highest order. And rather silly. And
there shall be no silliness here, for this is a place where silliness has no
abode.
I just deleted an almighty response after remembering that I was to beware the
troll.
Instead, I'd like to consider the interesting cultural phenomenon of 'internet
gentlemanly language eccentricity'. It's something I am witnessing more an
more, every day. The basic gist is that many people
On 06/09/2013 05:56 PM, Paul Maguire wrote:
I just deleted an almighty response after remembering that I was to beware the
troll.
Instead, I'd like to consider the interesting cultural phenomenon of 'internet
gentlemanly language eccentricity'. It's something I am witnessing more an
more,
The caterpillars, what a marvelous story. I absolutely loved it. Profound
respect and best wishes for you, your family, and all your friends. May
sanity prevail.
All the best from the Far East,
Fritz
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu
endern...@gmail.comwrote:
Simon, thank
This time; a little less information, a little more propaganda; sorry :)
At least 100 thousand gathered in Taksim this evening,
it's spectacular; words hardly describe this scene!
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To all my hobbit brothers out there…
Remember,
Uruk-hai's may have giant swords, Goblins may be 4 times bigger
Politicians stay in power by buying cronies. They make the favors for these
few look good, good to groups in the populace. So, they get crony funding and
popular support. These bought cronies are usually big businessmen who would
usually fail by being inept or crooked. The result is big
On 06/08/2013 11:34 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
Politicians stay in power by buying cronies. They make the favors for these
few look good, good to groups in the populace. So, they get crony funding and
popular support. These bought cronies are usually big businessmen who would
usually fail by
On 06/08/2013 01:22 AM, Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote:
Hello Richmond!
Sent from my iPad
On 08/06/2013, at 2:45 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
4. In practise I am not an anarchist because my experience suggests that humans
are not up to the standard
of managing to function
A very moving personal account.
Be aware (as your government must) that the eyes of the world are watching -
you are not alone in your struggle.
Best wishes to you and yours, Paul.
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On 06/07/2013 03:27 AM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu wrote:
@Jacque,
I'm also happy to see that *remarkable* people and to be with them.
As I said, there is still hope for Homo Sapiens :)
@Andrew,
I'm an anarchist since I've read *The Dispossessed* of Ursula Le Guin when I
was a child.
But it was
Richmond richmondmathewson@... writes:
I am worried that in that sort of situation criminal elements would seize
control.
Hah! I was wondering when Richmond would join this, and I'm encouraged to
see that he's an optimist who doesn't think this is the current state of the
world. g
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On 06/07/2013 08:30 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Richmond richmondmathewson@... writes:
I am worried that in that sort of situation criminal elements would seize
control.
Hah! I was wondering when Richmond would join this, and I'm encouraged to
see that he's an optimist who doesn't think this is
Hi endernafi,
My best wishes for you and all your partners in this fight
for your rights to preserve the few natural environments
left in your cities.
Hopefully, those who want to crush the laws with their
power will reconsider the real cost of their ambitions.
Have a nice weekend!
Al
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Hello Richmond!
Sent from my iPad
On 08/06/2013, at 2:45 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
4. In practise I am not an anarchist because my experience suggests that
humans are not up to the standard
of managing to function properly in a state of true anarchy, and I am worried
Hello all,
First, I can't tell how much glad I am to see your support.
Thanks for on-list and many, many off-list replies and good wishes.
I'd like to give you an update about the situation.
I do wonder what happened last night when the PM arrived back in the country…
- Alan
We were wondering
Hello again,
While the initial protest may have been about some trees this seems to have
got beyond that. - Richmond
Did you see the Firefly movie 'Serenity' ?
In the opening scene, a student asks the teacher: Why the independents didn't
like us, why didn't they want to get more civilized?
The various streams of thought in anarchy being talked about here is really
much more than I could have hoped for. An-cap, an-syn, whatever your cup of
tea is it's good to see there is some expression of anti-statist desires in
place I would often expect to be the last place to see such talk. It
Hi Ender,
Keep safe, keep hydrating.
I admit I don't understand, the media (all) does not convey the ideal. What
tree would fight to save? I have no comparison.
Simon
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Simon, thank you for your advice
but the police already hydrates us well, with high-pressure water canons :))
About the media…
You know, all newspapers and all tv's belong to some companies, holdings.
And that particular companies do business with government.
They are wired to government.
Thus,
* This mail was posted by me last sunday but it's rejected because of length;
so, trying again in 2 parts *
Dear Friends,
As I'm the one and only active LiveCode user in Turkey, I feel that the duty to
inform you is on my shoulders.
I was in the very center of the protests for
* here is part 2 *
I don't want any help whatsoever from you, 'cause this is our case, I know.
To stand up for our nature, for our cultural heritages, for our rights…
This post is just to inform you and for sharing my feelings.
But please, please remember:
This is not a political movement;
A little update to the situation:
As of now, the police is forced to retract from Taksim - Istanbul and Gezi Park
is like the Smurf Village :)
I mean, everybody brings food and other goods; and whoever need something get
whatever he/she needs.
Money is not allowed.
We built our library, our
This is what humanity can achieve without authority.
All that and much more as history has shown when cracks in the systems of
control open up enough for us to see something else being possible (even if
only for a little while). ;) Let's de-legitimize the authority of any
would-be governors and
Thank you very much for reporting, and for acting!
Our thoughts and prayers are with you, along with wishes that all
this will lead to a better society for your family and country.
I've never had the privilege to visit Turkey. But a few years ago
my sister in law took a year off work just to
@Pierre,
Thank you, your moral support {I mean all of you wise people out there} is
important to us, thank you.
@Tim,
I saw many tourists who defended Gezi Park with us against all that tear gas
and police brutality.
That wasn't their cause, that wasn't their country, that wasn't their trees.
A
On 6/6/13 5:51 PM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu wrote:
A little update to the situation:
As of now, the police is forced to retract from Taksim - Istanbul and Gezi Park
is like the Smurf Village :)
I mean, everybody brings food and other goods; and whoever need something get
whatever he/she needs.
@Andrew,
*Anarchy* is suffered from a deliberate semantic shift.
It's perceived as a bad word, like a *post-apocalyptic hell*.
In fact, it's not.
Gezi Park is the proof of it.
{check the pictures at the link in my last post, again}
Agreed. :) You don't have to convince me. I have considered
@Jacque,
I'm also happy to see that *remarkable* people and to be with them.
As I said, there is still hope for Homo Sapiens :)
@Andrew,
I'm an anarchist since I've read *The Dispossessed* of Ursula Le Guin when I
was a child.
But it was hard to believe that it can be realized.
Seeing that I was
One of my favorite books, ender.
Seeing a glimpse of another world through the cracks opening in this one
after so many years of just putting up with it is exhilarating.
Keep fighting, keep experimenting with ways to build new and exciting
social relationships with your neighbors in gezi park.
Ender
I was in Istanbul in September last year staying very near the park and loved
the place - I definitely want to return. Thinking of you all, and hoping that
this process leads to more respect and understanding, and less repression and
religious bigotry.
Cheers
Gerry
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