Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 02/07/2016 15:46, Mark Waddingham wrote: I'm really hoping (though I'm not clear if this is true or not) that the Native Field Object is not implemented as another new widget but as a new presentation of the LiveCode field object. A new widget would obviously be better than the using the

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 2016-07-04 13:13, Ben Rubinstein wrote: On 01/07/2016 17:28, Richard Gaskin wrote: Buttons are already quite good on macOS, as are fields, tabs, progress bars, and most others. Does that mean that these items are drawn by LiveCode, rather than using native API calls? If so, couldn't the

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 02/07/2016 14:57, Mark Waddingham wrote: I'm minded of a well-known proverb: "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" Without suggesting that this detracts from your general remarks, I can't resist pointing out that in my view

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 01/07/2016 17:28, Richard Gaskin wrote: Buttons are already quite good on macOS, as are fields, tabs, progress bars, and most others. Does that mean that these items are drawn by LiveCode, rather than using native API calls? If so, couldn't the iOS default to this macOS "theme" rather

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 2016-07-01 12:33, Ben Rubinstein wrote: That's why I think "it would be better if" the existing basic controls worked reasonably well on mobile platforms, and the existence of the various libraries, widgets, and mobileControlxxx functions - while all of them being extremely valuable - does

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 2016-07-01 11:49, Terence Heaford wrote: I think I understand, a native field for iOS (plus other mobile platforms) is a stretch goal. Well, actually, the 'stretch goal' (like all of stretches for Infinite LiveCode) are fully documented examples how to 'do that kind of thing' with

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 2016-07-01 21:03, Terence Heaford wrote: The button and popup button/menu. To me the text seems a little low within the display. Please report any minor display discrepancies you see in the quality center with pictures for comparison and OS details. Fraser has done a lot of work to

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

> On 1 Jul 2016, at 17:28, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Buttons are already quite good on macOS, as are fields, tabs, progress bars, > and most others. I agree but there a subtle display errors. The button and popup button/menu. To me the text seems a little low

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

Terence Heaford wrote: > So with regard to Mac OS if we/I want native controls for: > > Buttons, > Fields, > Tabs, > DataGrid (NSTable) > etc. > > I will have to roll my own in LCB (when available for this) or wait > for LiveCode to require to do it via a stretch goal? If you're looking for an

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2016-06-30 21:25, Richard Gaskin wrote: OS APIs change out from under the engine with expensive regularity, and all the while, even as mobile enhancements would indeed be valuable, there's a rather long list of other things we're asking them to do as well. H, at

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 30/06/2016 20:25, Richard Gaskin wrote: But while it's easy to write a sentence or two of things describing others to do, it's not quite as easy to actually do the work. Very true! And I realised after I sent my last email that I was sounding like one of those people But:

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

> On 1 Jul 2016, at 09:13, Mark Waddingham wrote: > > On 2016-07-01 00:38, Terence Heaford wrote: >> Perhaps LiveCode should spend time incorporating the native controls >> for each platform. > > Hence: > > - widgets > > -

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 2016-06-30 21:25, Richard Gaskin wrote: OS APIs change out from under the engine with expensive regularity, and all the while, even as mobile enhancements would indeed be valuable, there's a rather long list of other things we're asking them to do as well. H, at the end of the day,

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 2016-07-01 00:38, Terence Heaford wrote: Perhaps LiveCode should spend time incorporating the native controls for each platform. Hence: - widgets - https://livecode.com/project/infinite-livecode/ - https://livecode.com/project/infinite-livecode-native-field-object/ Warmest

RE: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

: vrijdag 1 juli 2016 00:38 To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Subject: Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something? > On 30 Jun 2016, at 20:25, Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com> wrote: > > OS APIs change out from under the engine with

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

> On 30 Jun 2016, at 20:25, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > OS APIs change out from under the engine with expensive regularity, and all > the while, even as mobile enhancements would indeed be valuable, there's a > rather long list of other things we're asking them to do

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

Ben Rubinstein wrote: On 29/06/2016 00:28, Richard Gaskin wrote: People do all sorts of things. Some might even have a 45-degree angled progress bar. Not everything folks might want comes in the tin. :) Yep, but lots of people want horizontal and vertical progress bars, which do come in

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

On 29/06/2016 00:28, Richard Gaskin wrote: People do all sorts of things. Some might even have a 45-degree angled progress bar. Not everything folks might want comes in the tin. :) Yep, but lots of people want horizontal and vertical progress bars, which do come in our tin - they just

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

Ben Rubinstein wrote: > A checkbox on each desktop platform takes on something at least > approximately akin to the native appearance. ... > But on iOS there's not the slightest attempt, which seems odd > considering how much effort has gone into supporting the mobile > platforms. > > And yes,

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

Richard, Thanks for your reply (and thanks Mike for the tmControls recommendation). I'm aware that we can make our own controls; and can use some native ones. But surely the point of LiveCode being cross platform is that we shouldn't need to? A checkbox on each desktop platform takes on

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

Spend the money and buy tmControls from Scott Rossi. Every app I have written is skinned the way I want it, and when I want something a little different, I'm able to customize them as I choose. On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Ben Rubinstein

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

Ben Rubinstein wrote: > My previous mobile app dabbling had involved entirely custom > interfaces. Now I'm trying to create a more straightforward app > with a more conventional interface - and I'm getting a horrible > dichotomy between the widgets (header bar, navigation bar, switch > control,

Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

My previous mobile app dabbling had involved entirely custom interfaces. Now I'm trying to create a more straightforward app with a more conventional interface - and I'm getting a horrible dichotomy between the widgets (header bar, navigation bar, switch control, segmented control) and the