Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Today, Thierry allowed me to put the external from his text to speech app into Augmented Earth. I was able to put in a paste button above the content field and paste text into the app on my iPhone. It worked quite well. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Thierry Douez wrote: > J. Landman Gay > ​: > ​ > > They can paste text normally if you use a native field. The only >> restriction is that LC can't manage the clipboard through script >> alone. But if you create a mobile field the OS handles it as >> expected. >> >> In other words, copy and paste

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-28 Thread Thierry Douez via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay ​: ​ They can paste text normally if you use a native field. The only > restriction is that LC can't manage the clipboard through script alone. But > if you create a mobile field the OS handles it as expected. > > In other words, copy and paste is currently limited to manual user ac

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread hh via use-livecode
> What is "js-package"? If the "js" isn't JavaScript, what is it? I used "package" in the sense of npm. Most packages are modules https://docs.npmjs.com/how-npm-works/packages And yes, js is short for javascript, the usual file ending. Using the browser widget enables HTML5 as a superset of java

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
>From a design perspective, for being able to use paste, speech to text, and >emojis, I have Idea that comes from something Richard said. When a user clicks on a field to edit, that field could appear to start from its location and grow to take up most of the screen. It would actually be a mobi

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
hh wrote: >> Richard G. wrote: >> ... beyond the performance gains by moving "low level binary data >> processing" to javaScript (would be nice if someone has time to >> post some apples-to-apples comparisons) ... > > "Low level binary data processing" means for me for example to invert > the co

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Richard G. wrote: > ... beyond the performance gains by moving "low level binary data > processing" to javaScript (would be nice if someone has time to > post some apples-to-apples comparisons) ... "Low level binary data processing" means for me for example to invert the color data of an image

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
hh wrote: > LC is a perfect tool, for me also plays the role of a GUI when seeking > for speed. Javascript/HTML5 does a lot of low level binary data > processing up to 100 times faster than LC Script (and no js-package > needed for that). > > To use javascript/HTML5 is not "bypassing" the LC lang

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Thanks Roger, With the huge amount of LC/HTML work I have done over the last year, I feel comfortable in saying that LC is vastly superior for all of the underlying text processing and data manipulation that has to be done. HTML/JS is all about presentation, but would be hard to use for the bac

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
No judgement here either. Just an involuntary gag reflex @ the thought of my beloved LC being reduced to a l mere code-language traffic light. Although I have always appreciated shell and do as applescript to get that one little piece of data from the native OS, it's not the way I prefer to use LC

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread hh via use-livecode
LC is a perfect tool, for me also plays the role of a GUI when seeking for speed. Javascript/HTML5 does a lot of low level binary data processing up to 100 times faster than LC Script (and no js-package needed for that). To use javascript/HTML5 is not "bypassing" the LC language" but *extending* t

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread Dave Kilroy via use-livecode
+1, Jonathan use what works for you in your situation - glad you got a solution you’re happy with Dave > > No judgment from me on this. On the contrary, most development mixes > languages from time to time, and I think it can be instructive to > observe where the dividing lines of natural usa

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
No judgment from me on this. On the contrary, most development mixes languages from time to time, and I think it can be instructive to observe where the dividing lines of natural usage are found. So I was kidding, of course, in referring to LC as a "JavaScript packaging tool", but maybe only s

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I am not trying to start a fuss - just find solutions for my particular problem. This is what worked for me for this situation. For situations where LC provides a full solution, it is MUCH faster to code in. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Roger Eller via use-livecode > wro

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
On Jun 26, 2017 9:36 PM, "Richard Gaskin via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > With all the interest lately in bypassing the LC language to use an embedded browser process, maybe we've found the winning slogan for LC: > > "LiveCode: a great JavaScript packaging tool" > > :)

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
jonathandlynch wrote: > I just modified the texting part of Augmented Earth to use a browser > widget for texting - it was a huge pain. But - now it has inertial > scrolling, copy and paste, and works fine with all of the emojis. > > I might wind up going that route on other text entry stuff. It i

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
And the iPhone speech to text works this way too! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:21 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > I just modified the texting part of Augmented Earth to use a browser widget > for texting - it was a huge pain. But - now it has inertial scrolling, copy > a

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I just modified the texting part of Augmented Earth to use a browser widget for texting - it was a huge pain. But - now it has inertial scrolling, copy and paste, and works fine with all of the emojis. I might wind up going that route on other text entry stuff. It is clean and smooth that way.

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
For this case, though, it will have to be called up specially, not made to look like it was already there. The field in question also allows users to put in images - something I don't think native fields can do. So the app would have an enter text button that calls up the native field, where th

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Dave Kilroy via use-livecode
OK good, the visible bits of a native field (border, background colour etc) could all be provided by background graphics so when you switch fields no visible change can be seen - you might even be able to use the inputTextChanged message instead of a button which the user has to press BTW you’l

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Dave - I think that might help I could give the user a button for opening up a pastable field. They could paste into that and LC could process it and put it into the regular field. It's not a bad idea. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Dave Kilroy via use-livecode > wr

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Dave Kilroy via use-livecode
Jonathan if you use a native field you can access it’s contents (which a user could have pasted into it) via something like the inputEndEditing message, and from there hide/delete the native field, reveal a LiveCode field, place the relevant data into it etc etc - would this help your situation?

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-25 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Thanks Richard, This conversation has made me realize I am about to have a yak shaving moment... The most important field for submitting a report in Augmented Earth is the Content field. Because it is an LC field, I use it to allow the user to enter text, format the text, and upload images. The i

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-25 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
jonathandlynch wrote: > I really want to have the same forms for every platform, not have to > generate 40 different fields on the fly and manage all of that. You don't need to. Write a loop that instantiates any editable fields for you on preOpenCard and LiveCode will do the rest. I don't kn

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-25 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
eneralPasteboard]; >>> pasteboard.string = @"some text to be pasted"; >>> >>> Is there is a reason why basic mobile clipboard support was never >>> implemented in LiveCode? >>> >>> It would be very nice to be able to get and set the rawClipboardD

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-25 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
ry nice to be able to get and set the rawClipboardData on mobile but that is only possible on the desktop. Henry -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-we-access-the-clipboard-on-mobile-devices-tp4716158p4716182.html Sent from the Revolution - Use

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-25 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
the desktop. > > Henry > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-we-access-the-clipboard-on-mobile-devices-tp4716158p4716182.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-25 Thread hlowe via use-livecode
implemented in LiveCode? It would be very nice to be able to get and set the rawClipboardData on mobile but that is only possible on the desktop. Henry -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-do-we-access-the-clipboard-on-mobile-devices-tp4716158p4716182

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-24 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Does that mean I could put the text to be copied into a native field, then put into the clipboard from there? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2017, at 4:46 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > >> On 6/24/17 2:03 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: >> I cannot figure it out f

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 6/24/17 2:03 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: I cannot figure it out from the docs The clipboard isn't supported in LC fields on mobile. To get full clipboard support you need to use a native field. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Sof

How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-24 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I cannot figure it out from the docs Sent from my iPhone ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use