On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:
The drafting table orientation has been optimal for long work sessions for
centuries, so it seems inevitable that as computer form factors continue to
diversify we'll see an increasing number of those.
An iMac
Colin Holgate wrote:
On Jun 1, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:
Which then brings me full circle to another thread on this List
about where OS X is headed, and my feeling that '...and a touch
sensitive screen' will be part of the future OS X requirement.
I'm less sure about that. Steve
I'm less sure about that. Steve Jobs spoke out about how
touch screens are not the right way to work with desktop
machines, and I've made enough touch screen kiosk
applications to know that it's tiring to work that way.
This is why I miss Fake Steve. SJ validated or invalidated anything to
The performa series was an attempt at making Apple systems to
compete with the PC's of the time. A few were pretty good,
but there were some pigs too. In the final analysis what
Apple produced in an attempt to market cheap computers,
was... well... cheap computers! Good riddance I say!
/Hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web-tp4650010p4650105.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
Peter,
I like your prior comments but I have to disagree with this:
The problem with Hypercard, and what led to its demise, was fundamentally
that it was not free.
I also don't understand this:
The thing that killed it was a dog in the manger approach to things.
Unless you are talking
On 06/01/2012 12:12 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 5/31/12 1:45 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote:
I'm not sure they would use Livecode anyway.
I'm not so sure. A large number of the old HC mailing list are here
now. :)
I started with Hypercard in 1993 when it came bundled on a Mac LC475:
the
:) I know they (and you) are here! I even remember the days when Ms.
De Voto used to also grace this list. And, of course, the late, great
Eric Chatonet.
It is all those coulda-woulda-shouldas over at Ars Technica I was
referring to. After all, I was able to discover Runrev by accident 10
Back in the early 2000 pythonware was formed by several prominent leaders in
the python community.
It was delivering an IDE for python...I actually was one of the first and few
who bought a license.
They eventually shut down. From a conversation with one of the founders I
learnt that people
in context:
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web-tp4650010p4650114.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
___
use-livecode mailing list
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Please
the
hay, but would not let the horse who could eat it either.
--
View this message in context:
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web-tp4650010p4650114.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com
Well, things could be hotting up in the dynamic IDE world.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ibdknox/light-table?ref=history
Light Table looks like it is a modern take on the old Smalltalk IDE
(Visualage, Squeak). It's going back to the idea of having code in an
image (stacks in our case),
Even if Apple gave away Hypercard to people who bought a mac
without it, Apple would still be paying for it. In the case
of all those other things, the taxpayer is paying for it, or
else the company that hired him is paying for it, and
actually he is likely himself paying for it because
On Jun 1, 2012, at 1:47 AM, stephen barncard wrote:
yeah, like me, I was devoted to read the Evangelist and Hypercard forums
every day. I piped the forums into the studio First Class systems.
First Class! Now that brings back memories! Is there a museum somewhere for
dead software?
-- Peter
Exactly my point. Maybe it's a matter of semantics, or perhaps I imagine things
work a certain way inside a corporation, but I always envision a bunch of suits
sitting around a conference table, deciding how to price a product, and taking
into consideration all the free stuff they are putting
You could just offer the dog a steak, but then the analogy seems to be breaking
down. ;-)
Bob
On Jun 1, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Peter-
Friday, June 1, 2012, 4:11:18 AM, you wrote:
The dog in the manger approach was, we don't want it, we cannot use it (eat
it) and so we
If Apple had no included anything for free, (not sure how to
measure that) would they have charged less? Hmmm... no way to
test it, so it must remain a mystery.
The point of a bundle is to justify the price you want your target customer
to pay - in Apple's case, they wanted you to pay
The performa series was an attempt at making Apple systems to compete with the
PC's of the time. A few were pretty good, but there were some pigs too. In the
final analysis what Apple produced in an attempt to market cheap computers,
was... well... cheap computers! Good riddance I say! I'll pay
Interestingly enough, as a Window and Linux user, I had never even
heard of Hyper-Card when I found MetaCard, then Rev and finally
LiveCode... I was just looking for a decent development tool for those
two platforms only. Mac's or anything to do with Apple never even
crossed my mind. (Seldom does
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Peter Alcibiades
palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
The dog in the manger approach was, we don't want it, we cannot use it (eat
it) and so we will not let anyone else who could use it and make good
things
out of it have it either.
You are certainly right
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD pmb...@gmail.comwrote:
First Class! Now that brings back memories! Is there a museum somewhere
for dead software?
What?? I still access the local Mac User Group via FirstClass 9.1 - not
that I would recommend it to anyone, there is
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Lynn Fredricks
lfredri...@proactive-intl.com wrote:
Within each product line (Macs, iPod, iPhone, iPad) you have very clear and
very simple differentiated levels - the low end is cheapest and sports
fewer
features,
Very interesting you should write that,
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/
It might be useful if some of you who can compare Hypercard and
Livecode posted a comment to the article showing that the grandchild
of Hypercard is alive and well. I've left a comment on the aggregating
site
under name pmbrig ?
Le 31 mai 2012 à 13:15, Bernard Devlin a écrit :
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/
It might be useful if some of you who can compare Hypercard and
Livecode posted a comment to the article showing that the grandchild
://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/
It might be useful if some of you who can compare Hypercard and
Livecode posted a comment to the article showing that the grandchild
of Hypercard is alive and well. I've left a comment on the aggregating
site that led
. Brigham
pmb...@gmail.com
http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
Le 31 mai 2012 à 13:15, Bernard Devlin a écrit :
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/
It might be useful if some of you who can compare Hypercard and
Livecode posted a comment
I'm not sure they would use Livecode anyway. They want to moan about
the good old days, but when presented with language xyz which is
free, and which has hundreds of free libraries, etc. they will find
something to bitch about when it comes to Livecode. What? I have to
pay for it! But, I get
TANSTAAFL. There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. Even Hypercard was not
free. We paid for it when we paid for the Mac it was installed on. People who
want things to always be free need to also consider the term freeloader.
Someone somewhere pays for the free thing.
Even if Apple gave
On 05/31/2012 10:08 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
TANSTAAFL. There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. Even Hypercard was not free. We paid for it
when we paid for the Mac it was installed on. People who want things to always be free need to also
consider the term freeloader. Someone somewhere pays
You had to pay Apple for the development version (v.s. player) of Hypercard. I
think this started with version 2.
Le 31 mai 2012 à 21:08, Bob Sneidar a écrit :
TANSTAAFL. There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. Even Hypercard was not
free. We paid for it when we paid for the Mac it was
On 5/31/12 1:45 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote:
I'm not sure they would use Livecode anyway.
I'm not so sure. A large number of the old HC mailing list are here now. :)
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
yeah, like me, I was devoted to read the Evangelist and Hypercard forums
every day. I piped the forums into the studio First Class systems.
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:12 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:
On 5/31/12 1:45 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote:
I'm not sure they would use
32 matches
Mail list logo
