Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-25 Thread Mike Kerner
This doesn't suprise me, and appears to be consistent with what other OSS tools experience. Will LCB encourage/enable more community involvement? We shall see... On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 24/05/2016 16:19, Lagi Pittas wrote: > > We

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-25 Thread [-hh]
of bugs or even regressions in the engine and IDE that are produced by the core dev team and are to be in part reported by community members (also such members that have Indy and HTML5 licenses) ... 98%. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.c

Subject: Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Mark Rauterkus
Hi, With Kickstarter, the income from the crowdsource efforts are considered sales incomes as there often are real benefits and products being traded with the various transactions. Make a donation of sorts and get a new prototype thingie, even if it is only a promise of a thingie yet to be built

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> It doesn't seem much different from how it works in the States - >> from the Kickstarter tax guide: >> >>In general, in the US, funds raised on Kickstarter are considered >>income. >>... >>Sales tax

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 24/05/2016 16:19, Lagi Pittas wrote: > > We don't have any statistics from LC to see how many people are on >> subscription and how many actively use the product for free which would >> help. >> > >

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread [-hh]
using the open source edition > and do not have an active subscription. Peter, how do you estimate the number of LiveCode users? Or do you mean the number of *registered* LiveCode users? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Infinite-Livecode-Pledge

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 24/05/2016 16:19, Lagi Pittas wrote: We don't have any statistics from LC to see how many people are on subscription and how many actively use the product for free which would help. Approximately 75% of LiveCode users are using the open source edition and do not have an active

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner
It is completely different. VAT comes off the top line, like an excise tax. Income tax comes off the bottom line. Therefore, if a firm is plowing funds into development, it can be at or below 0 on the bottom line, therefore the tax on the funds would be zero, and depending on its previous

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Lagi Pittas wrote: > I have just paid my pledge and I was cheesed off that 20% of > my DONATION/PLEDGE has gone to the government. > > If doing feature exchange is to save Kickstarter fees it certainly > doen't do that. It doesn't seem much different from how it works in the States - from the

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner
That would also save on the fees that we get charged Over Here when we send money Over There. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I wonder if an inversion with the US being the collection point would > help, since there is no VAT, here. It still

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Mike Kerner
I wonder if an inversion with the US being the collection point would help, since there is no VAT, here. It still seems weird that there would be VAT on fundraising, where the contributor is not receiving any in-kind benefit, other than more awesomeness, but for the Community version, that

Browser widget JavaScript [was: Infinite Livecode Pledge]

2016-05-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 24/05/2016 11:39, Jacques Hausser wrote: I’m currently trying to adapt an old stack to LC 8, and among other things I’m trying to use the browser widget. My question: how to replace the good old ‘revBrowserCallScript’ command ? It is surely absolutely evident, but not for my poor old

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Jacques Hausser
Dear all, I’m currently trying to adapt an old stack to LC 8, and among other things I’m trying to use the browser widget. My question: how to replace the good old ‘revBrowserCallScript’ command ? It is surely absolutely evident, but not for my poor old brain… Thanks in advance ! Jacques

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Lagi Pittas
Hi There are a few of these companies about. http://www.spi-inc.org/ http://sfconservancy.org/ As a stepping stone attaching your sails to a few of these might even spread the word. They not only seem to allow donations for specific projects but also have a fund that they share for who needs

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Lagi Pittas
Hi, Just read my first message here. Seems I need to proofread before sending but I was rather annoyed when I sent that. It looks like I can't edit a post (obviously) . But how do you use this thing to answer a post. but I didn't receive my post in my inbox so that I could reply to it - is that

Re: Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Heather Laine
Lagi: We aren't thrilled about having to pay VAT either. However, doing it through Kickstarter would not have avoided this. It is not a charity and pledges through it are liable for VAT. We paid VAT on the Kickstarter we did back in 2013. We did factor in VAT on the campaign when we started.

Infinite Livecode Pledge

2016-05-24 Thread Lagi Pittas
Hi All I have just paid my pledge and I was cheesed off that 20% of my DONATION/PLEDGE has gone to the government. If doing feature exchange is to save Kickstarter fees it certainly doen't do that. Couldn't you think about creating a charity for the .org (it is open source) and we donta to