Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-21 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> Am 21.06.2022 um 15:19 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > : > > On 2022-06-21 12:18, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: >>> Am 21.06.2022 um 11:56 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode >>> : >>> Why? >> First, it's more convenient for the developer. > > I think the end user

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2022-06-21 12:18, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Am 21.06.2022 um 11:56 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode : Why? First, it's more convenient for the developer. I think the end user is more important (in this case) ;) The Intel only and Apple only builds are smaller ins

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-21 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> Am 21.06.2022 um 11:56 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > : > > On 2022-06-20 20:55, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: >> Anyway, the macOS Apple support is currently experimental, i am pretty >> sure there will be such an option in future. At least i hope so. ;) > > Why? >

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2022-06-20 20:55, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Anyway, the macOS Apple support is currently experimental, i am pretty sure there will be such an option in future. At least i hope so. ;) Why? The idea of universal binaries is to ensure that a single app/installer can be shipped

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-20 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Hm, here in LC 9.6.8 RC2 and 10DP4 i see only 'macOS Intel' and 'macOS Apple (experimental)'. When i select both, then a universal standalone is created. So to have separate Intel and M1 versions, I have to run the standalone building 2 times. Once with only Intel selected and then once

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Indeed, but 'both' results in an app package containing 2 'slices', rather than 2 distinct apps. On Mon, 20 Jun 2022, 21:56 Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode, < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Richmond wrote: > > > In the standalone builder you have always separated > > Linux 32-bit and

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-20 Thread Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Richmond wrote: > In the standalone builder you have always separated > Linux 32-bit and 64-bit builds, and the same with > Windows: could you alter the MacOS standalones so we > end up with one INTEL 64-bit standalone, and one ARM > standalone, rather than a awkward sandwich? In the current

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-20 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
In the standalone builder you have always separated Linux 32-bit and 64-bit builds, and the same with Windows: could you alter the MacOS standalones so we end up with one INTEL 64-bit standalone, and one ARM standalone, rather than a awkward sandwich? Best, Richmond. On 20.06.22 17:50, Mark

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-20 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2022-06-18 21:27, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: So, the question now is, is this a macOS problem or is it possible that a standalone could show the wrong setting due to a wrong configuration or so when it is created. It is a macOS (Finder) bug - I think it was the same when they

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-18 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Thanks Bernd, the processor... should have know that. it seems i got to much sun today. ;) I was also wondering why the check box for rosetta was already unchecked after installation, but did not had the idea to check. I just trusted macOS. ;) So, the question now is, is this a macOS

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-18 Thread Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Hi Matthias, I should have added that to my previous post: If you put "put the processor" into the message box it says Rosetta: x86_64 Native: arm64 Startup time is also noticeably reduced when running native. Also is the footprint of LC in memory smaller according to activity monitor: about

Re: M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-18 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Bernd, May be a dumb question, but how did you verify that LC was running in Rosetta mode although it was not checked. Regards, Matthias Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 18.06.2022 um 19:35 schrieb Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode > : > > Sorry if this has been discussed before but I

M1 Macs and LC 9.6.8 RCs and 10.0.0 RCs

2022-06-18 Thread Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Sorry if this has been discussed before but I could not find it. Yesterday I played around with LC 9.6.8 RC2 and 10.0.0 RC4 and wanted to see what difference the new Universal build does for speed. After some testing I finally read the release notes and it states: Note: Apple architecture