Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

Monte Goulding wrote: > I expect there will need to be something like that. > The script compiler will need to somehow map: > answer barcode -> mergZXingGetBarcode() > so why not: > répondre à code à barres -> mergZXingGetBarcode() > or > responder código de barras -> mergZXingGetBarcode() > PS Go

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

On 30/01/2013, at 11:22 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > Hi Monte, > > Monte Goulding wrote: > >> 30 day campaigns are statistically more likely to >> succeed apparently. By a small fraction. > >> I imagine that project might hang on the back >> of the open language one. I'm imagining some >> kin

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Hi Monte, Monte Goulding wrote: > 30 day campaigns are statistically more likely to > succeed apparently. By a small fraction. > I imagine that project might hang on the back > of the open language one. I'm imagining some > kind of syntax loader... What if each function, command, handler, reser

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

On 30/01/2013, at 10:37 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > If so, then I would recommend to expand the Kickstarter deadline from 1 month > to > 6 months to allow Universities and Educational Leaders around the > world to evaluate > the usefulness AND viability of porting LiveCode to their native langu

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Hi All, I learned about this breaking News from a post made by Richard. Now I have a question for Kevin: Kevin, Did you know if it will be possible to translate the open source version of LiveCode to other languages? If so, then I would recommend to expand the Kickstarter deadline from 1 month t

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That is a pretty amazing watch! I want one! Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > > On 29.01.2013, at 20:54, Shawn Blc wrote: > > > If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome! > > > > Being a little

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

It's my experience in life that almost nothing is linear. It will be important for all of us to get the word out (which I suppose we should have been doing all along). I have posted on my Facebook page and alerted people at my (former) place of employment. Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, S

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Is it like the perpetual care arrangements in cemeteries? Does that mean that your descendants get updates forever? -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: > There's a perpetual license?? How do I get one of

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Björnke, it'd be awesome wouldn't it? Talking about being optimistic!!! On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > > On 29.01.2013, at 20:54, Shawn Blc wrote: > > > If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome! > > > > Being a little optimistic h

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

On 29.01.2013, at 20:54, Shawn Blc wrote: > If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome! > > Being a little optimistic here ---> Looking forward to being part of > the largest funded KS project ever! uhm... just saying: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507

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If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome! Being a little optimistic here ---> Looking forward to being part of the largest funded KS project ever! On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: > Oh never mind I already have that!! I thot it mean

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Oh never mind I already have that!! I thot it meant Lifetime Renewal! I would probably have gone for that! Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > That's correct. Unlike the pay as you go licenses which are essentially > software rental, the perpetual license is just that - per

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There's a perpetual license?? How do I get one of those?? Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. > Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more > details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/ho

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I hear the devil's from there. Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:48 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > On 29/01/2013, at 9:45 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours isn't in it? >>> >>> Lol.. Taswhere? >> >> I'm sorry, i d

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

Similar I guess. But you don't need it to start creating your software, only to ship or update closed source. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 17:02, "Colin Holgate" wrote: >Won't the $499 a year st

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Won't the $499 a year still effectively be a pay as you go license? On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Heather Laine wrote: > >We will be discontinuing the PAYG license types once we go dual license, so > >no new purchases of this will be possible. ___ us

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> Dear List Members, > > We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: > > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode > To the RunRev team and community, Unless something significant changes in the next few days, current circumstances will not allow

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Erm. The question as it stands does not compute Colin :). You can't have 5.5 and not 5.5.1, you always get those minor releases with your major version. However, if we rephrase it, suppose you had a perpetual 5.0 license, but then instead of updating it purchased a PAYG license, what would happe

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> > Wow, this will teach me to go to sleep! Kevin, Heather, everyone at runrev > THANK YOU! I'll be seeing what I can scrounge up to help, and will point > the 1 other person I know who might be interested towards the website. > > Thanks! > > ___ use-liv

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

Yes absolutely. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 15:29, "Andrew Kluthe" wrote: >I had just paid for three years of commercial updates to livecode >complete. Will I get the updates I paid for to the

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What happens if you did a change of license? Like, if I was perpetual up to version 5.5, but pay as you go from 5.5.1, would I be able to use 5.5, but not 5.5.1? On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > >If it is a perpetual license, as opposed to one of the newer pay as you go > l

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If it is a perpetual license, as opposed to one of the newer pay as you go licenses, it never expires. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 15:09, "David C." wrote: >Thank you very much for the prompt r

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That's correct. Unlike the pay as you go licenses which are essentially software rental, the perpetual license is just that - perpetual. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 15:08, "Shawn Blc" wrote: >W

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Heather, that answered my question too, however my license is 5.5, which was purchased June 1st, 2012. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Heather Laine wrote: > Dear David, > > What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license, > under our existing "perpetual" license EUL

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Thank you very much, Heather! ...that is simple and plain enough. Regards, David C. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Heather Laine wrote: > Dear David, > > What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license, > under our existing "perpetual" license EULA, that EULA applies

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I had just paid for three years of commercial updates to livecode complete. Will I get the updates I paid for to the new commercial license for that time period? regards, Andrew Kluthe On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Heather Laine wrote: > Dear David, > > What you own is yours. If you have pu

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

Dear David, What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license, under our existing "perpetual" license EULA, that EULA applies to that license. You will always be able to build closed source apps using LiveCode 4.5 (as long as you have hardware that will run it and its fe

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Thank you very much for the prompt reply, Kevin, ...however, I'm not quite sure that the FAQ addresses my concern, or at least it still seems a bit unclear. >From the FAQ: "We will continue to honor your existing license terms until its expiry date. Once it expires you will be invited to renew wit

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What about this (see the *bold* area)? I have a commercial license. From what I remember when I purchased it I could create, edit applications and distribute applications for as long as I wanted UNTIL I decided to upgrade. See below. The commercial version will be available as an annual subscri

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Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Ki

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> > We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: > > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode > Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? A

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News from France : http://www.mac4ever.com/actu/77182_l-outil-de-developpement-livecode-bientot-en-open-source Le 29 janv. 2013 à 11:40, Kevin Miller a écrit : > We haven't put it in but I don't see any reason not to allow that - just > drop us a line if that's what you want to do. > > Kind re

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Dear Kevin, Heather and Team, Just to say : thanks for being able to purpose this strategic and very courageous double-license paradigm orientation. An announced great success at work. Makes me, again and again, so proud the belong to this incredibly creative dev community. Back to you after my

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Thanks Kevin, that's good to know. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour space

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On 29/01/2013, at 9:46 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > There is a fee that is automatically added to your pledge, that is identical > in amount to the shipping cost. If goodies can be picked up in Edinburgh then > I guess that amount could be removed from your pledge. Would be funny though > if th

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Localisation based on ip address is notoriously hard and failure prone. There's no telling which IP will be recognized correctly, which will be miss-placed and which will be unrecogised. That is also why I hate auto-redirects based on locality so much (besides the fact that they create walled ga

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On 29/01/2013, at 9:45 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: >>> Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours >>> isn't in it? >> >> Lol.. Taswhere? > > I'm sorry, i didn't catch what you meant, can you elaborate a bit more? I live in Tasmania... -- Monte Goulding M

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There is a fee that is automatically added to your pledge, that is identical in amount to the shipping cost. If goodies can be picked up in Edinburgh then I guess that amount could be removed from your pledge. Would be funny though if they reach the goal based on the shipping costs, but with tho

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

On 29.01.2013, at 11:44, Monte Goulding wrote: > On 29/01/2013, at 9:43 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > >> Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours >> isn't in it? > > Lol.. Taswhere? I'm sorry, i didn't catch what you meant, can you elaborate a bit more?

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

On 29/01/2013, at 9:43 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours > isn't in it? Lol.. Taswhere? -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that!

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Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours isn't in it? On 29.01.2013, at 11:36, Monte Goulding wrote: > A little warning folks. You need to manually add the shipping if your outside > the UK. Kickstarter doesn't do it for you. If you've already pledged you can

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

We haven't put it in but I don't see any reason not to allow that - just drop us a line if that's what you want to do. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 10:36, "Monte Goulding" wrote: >A little warni

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

A little warning folks. You need to manually add the shipping if your outside the UK. Kickstarter doesn't do it for you. If you've already pledged you can go back in and adjust it. Just a thought... @RunRev have you considered having pickup at the conference as an option? Cheers Monte -- Mon

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

Auftrag >> von Heather Laine >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2013 10:36 >> An: How to use LiveCode >> Betreff: Open Source LiveCode Project >> >> Dear List Members, >> >> We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: >> >&g

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> Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2013 10:36 > An: How to use LiveCode > Betreff: Open Source LiveCode Project > > Dear List Members, > > We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: > > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of- >

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Dear Mark, We will be offering a dual license. You can use the GPL license and release your source code, or you can purchase a commercial license and continue to publish closed source apps. Regards, Heather On 29 Jan 2013, at 09:52, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Dear Heather, > > This sound re

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

On 29/01/2013, at 8:52 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > This sound really, really interesting. Could you please explain how this > would be free for everyone except professionals under GPL 3? AFAIK, open > source means free (as in free speech) for everyone, including professionals. I'm sure Hea

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The new licensing will be a dual license. You're not allowed to make closed source software with the open source version. In theory, you could probably make commercial software, if you ship it with the source code as well as the GPL license. But then you're creating open source software, not com

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Hi Mark, It is GPL3, we are not modifying the license. It will be free for a wide variety of professional uses (e.g. in house software) but there are some you will need to pay for, such as creating closed source software to sell or accessing technical support. See the FAQ page link on the Kickstar

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Dual license. See MySQL for an example of this. Free for everyone, but needs commercial license for commercial use. No need for a seperate version of the GPL, it's dual licensed. PS: professionals are probably able to use it for free under GPL3 as well as long as they release their source code und

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Dear Heather, This sound really, really interesting. Could you please explain how this would be free for everyone except professionals under GPL 3? AFAIK, open source means free (as in free speech) for everyone, including professionals. Are you using your own version of the GPL? -- Best regard

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Well I think that's probably the most expensive shirt I'll ever buy but I can't wait to get it. Good work RunRev! > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for

Re: Open Source LiveCode Project

On 29/01/13 11:35, Heather Laine wrote: Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for everybody to use.

Open Source LiveCode Project

Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for everybody to use. We are doing this via a Kickstarter fundr