Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-06 Thread Christophe Leske
Am 05.11.12 03:54, schrieb J. Landman Gay: On 11/4/12 7:21 PM, Mark Smith wrote: This is part of the problem discussed by Chris... documentation is fragmented and all over the place. And in a rapidly changing environment, which LC is, it can be difficult to keep up with. Also, what

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-05 Thread Peter Haworth
I'd like to give a plug for Bjornke's BvG Docu 2 plugin here. It provides much more powerful dictionary search capabilities and often turns up references to entries which you won't find through the normal dictionary search mechanisms. Check it out at http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu Pete lcSQL

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-04 Thread Mark Smith
Colin Holgate-2 wrote You can then look in the Dictionary for entries such as mobileCreateControl, where you see a list of the controls that can be made:... Colin, where is that command? I searched the LC dictionary but did not fine anything for mobileCreateControl Thanks -- Mark -- View

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-04 Thread Colin Holgate
I seem to be syllable dyslexic. I meant mobileControlCreate. On Nov 4, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Mark Smith mark_sm...@cpe.umanitoba.ca wrote: Colin, where is that command? I searched the LC dictionary but did not fine anything for mobileCreateControl

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-04 Thread Mark Smith
Colin Holgate-2 wrote I seem to be syllable dyslexic. I meant mobileControlCreate. Thanks, no problem (create control, as an example of english like makes more sense than control create anyway). Its interesting that the only reference to this that I could find was in the Android Release notes

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-04 Thread Colin Holgate
No, I'm just not that deep! I checked, I have 97 cases of create, and 27 pages where create and control appear, but no controlcreate or createcontrol cases. Some of these things are quite new, and you would l want to be looking in the help and release notes for v5.5.3. On Nov 4, 2012, at

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 11/4/12 7:21 PM, Mark Smith wrote: This is part of the problem discussed by Chris... documentation is fragmented and all over the place. And in a rapidly changing environment, which LC is, it can be difficult to keep up with. Also, what documentation is provided in the release notes is pretty

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-03 Thread Graham Samuel
Sure you can write a = 1 but it will be in an 'if' construction, and the result will be either true or false. There are or were languages where the boolean equality sign was distinguished from the assignment sign: in Algol, if I remember rightly, we wrote a := 1 To put 1 into a. I

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread Christophe Leske
Am 02.11.2012 01:18, schrieb Colin Holgate: Well, these are early days still. A lot of the inconsistencies are where you either have to simulate the native appearance using LiveCode controls and tricks, or you talk to the OS and get native controls. Eventually they will probably allow access

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
Christophe, First and foremost, welcome to LiveCode and to this list. It is welcoming to see some familiar names from the Director community! Let me say that from a previous Director advocate, I totally understand your frustration and sense of confusion. LC has so many things going for it

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread Colin Holgate
The Help menu has entries for iOS Release Notes and Android Release Notes. Those two have a list of the mobile features you can use, along with example syntax. You can then look in the Dictionary for entries such as mobileCreateControl, where you see a list of the controls that can be made:

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread Christophe Leske
Am 02.11.2012 15:01, schrieb Colin Holgate: The Help menu has entries for iOS Release Notes and Android Release Notes. Those two have a list of the mobile features you can use, along with example syntax. You can then look in the Dictionary for entries such as mobileCreateControl, where you

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread Colin Holgate
It took seven months to write the book, if I had been asked to write extra chapters that were beyond the scope of the book (like, general LiveCode beginner chapters), I doubt if I would have wanted to! Some others here were writing books too. Not sure how those are coming along. On Nov 2,

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread tbodine
Yep, there were tons of useful Director / Lingo books. I used to buy several per year. It was a great way to jumpstart projects and find detailed instruction that fit your learning level. I really missed having such books to get up to speed on LiveCode. I find the LiveCode resources are piecemeal

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
tbodine wrote: Heck, I just wish the LC dictionary would be provided in PDF file so we could print it out. Is it just me, or is the built-in search feature of the LC dictionary quite bad? (Example: search array and you get just 2 results, neither of which tells you how to create or work with

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread info
Am I the only one who wants dot syntax and short assigments like myVariable = field(foo).text instead of the verbose syntax? I understand that this stems from the fact that LC is really so similar to Director. LC is what Director should have been for mobile development... But then,didn't

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 02/11/2012 16:41, tbodine wrote: Heck, I just wish the LC dictionary would be provided in PDF file so we could print it out. Is it just me, or is the built-in search feature of the LC dictionary quite bad? (Example: search array and you get just 2 results, neither of which tells you how to

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread Colin Holgate
Dot syntax has been talked about in the past, and don't forget that it's not even just dot syntax that doesn't exist in LC, you can't even say: a = 1 The answer given, I believe, is that they are focussing even more on making the language human readable, and that's their target audience, not

RE: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread John Dixon
And that is how it should be... as you say, you have lots of choice elsewhere if you wish to use dot syntax notation. I for one am glad that livecode are trying, but they have strayed a little, to keep the language as English like as possible.. Dixie Dot syntax has been talked about in

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 11/2/12 12:02 PM, i...@multimedial.de wrote: Am I the only one who wants dot syntax and short assigments This comes up occasionally by the three or four people who want it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

RE: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread Ralph DiMola
to use LiveCode Subject: Re: developing for mobile devices On 11/2/12 12:02 PM, i...@multimedial.de wrote: Am I the only one who wants dot syntax and short assigments This comes up occasionally by the three or four people who want it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread info
Well it doesn't need to be mutually exclusive,does it? Lingo does have the two modes as well - verbose and concise. Ok I stop naming Director as a reference - although this could potentially allure more users to LC... Freundliche Grüße, Christophe Leske multimedial.de PROFILE:

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-02 Thread Colin Holgate
I don't think that's a bad thing. Earlier today I used LiveCode as a reference in discussing a Director ability. On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:58 PM, i...@multimedial.de wrote: Ok I stop naming Director as a reference - although this could potentially allure more users to LC...

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-01 Thread tbodine
Chris, I'm finding Colin's book http://www.packtpub.com/livecode-for-android-ios-mobile-development-beginners-guide/book on LiveCode mobile dev. to be helpful. -- Tom Bodine -- View this message in context:

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-01 Thread Mike Kerner
1) It's MobGUI not MobileGUI, in case someone is reading this thread later and is trying to figure out what we are talking about. 2) There are other tools as well for building mobile interfaces, such as tmControls (http://tmtools.tactilemedia.com/tmcontrol/index.html) 3) If you are referring to

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-01 Thread Colin Holgate
That should read all of 2012. I featured it in my book in a couple of places, but knew that there were no updates coming before I finished writing the book. So I added this note to one of the chapters: LiveCode has, at the time of writing, been updated so that the features on Android match the

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-01 Thread info
Hi Colin I finished your book,and I learned how to invoke the controls. It is just that this all seems so inconsistent,one control is done like this,and the other one is invoked like that... Plus,I am missing a lot of little additional controls (how do you do a spinner on iOS,that waiting

Re: developing for mobile devices

2012-11-01 Thread Colin Holgate
Well, these are early days still. A lot of the inconsistencies are where you either have to simulate the native appearance using LiveCode controls and tricks, or you talk to the OS and get native controls. Eventually they will probably allow access to all of the native controls. When do you