Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-14 Thread Richmond
On 10/14/2013 09:52 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/14/13 1:34 PM, Richmond wrote: It certainly wasn't aimed at existing customers. They probably all got it. I didn't, and so far everyone who's responded has said they didn't see it either. Maybe you're special, Richmond. :) Probably q

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-14 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/14/13 1:34 PM, Richmond wrote: It certainly wasn't aimed at existing customers. They probably all got it. I didn't, and so far everyone who's responded has said they didn't see it either. Maybe you're special, Richmond. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactives

Re: "Be This Guy" - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-14 Thread Richmond
On 10/14/2013 02:02 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Pete Wrote : The tag could be something like "Practice makes perfect, but LC makes it easier to get there." I like that. Kevin should pick up such sayings and quote them in LiveCode publicity mails. Aha; somebod

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-14 Thread Richmond
On 10/14/2013 01:50 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: I'm very proud of our marketing efforts and they are absolutely useful and necessary. I don't know how Richmond managed to get this particular mailer as it should be getting sent to brand new account holders only! Well; there it was in my in-box: sorr

Re: "Be This Guy" - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-14 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Pete Wrote : > The tag could be something like "Practice makes perfect, but LC makes it > easier to get there." I like that. Kevin should pick up such sayings and quote them in LiveCode publicity mails. -Francis "Nothing should ever be done for the first time !" _

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-14 Thread Kevin Miller
I'm very proud of our marketing efforts and they are absolutely useful and necessary. I don't know how Richmond managed to get this particular mailer as it should be getting sent to brand new account holders only! It certainly wasn't aimed at existing customers. Everyone has a different experience

Re: Be this guy

2013-10-13 Thread Pierre Sahores
Well said ;D Le 14 oct. 2013 à 01:01, Peter Hermsen a écrit : > Yes, I program in many languages and at many levels. I find that LiveCode > can run the gamut from the simplest to the most complex. Positioning it as > anything short of that is somewhat of a denigration. The tag could be > som

Re: Be this guy

2013-10-13 Thread Peter Hermsen
I count myself among the many other LC users who program in multiple languages. I agree that LC can allow an otherwise non-programmer to create rudimentary code and usable applications for cross-platform deployment. I applaud Kevin, et. al. for outstanding work toward that goal. Whilst I hav

Re: "Be This Guy" - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 10:26 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: @Richmond, Doctor Scott Raney works went so important for all of us, Runrev included even if Metacard did this amazing so sweet and incredible smart Creator so lazy to the end, just before Kevin purposed to Scott to push MC ahead, as we today all

Re: "Be This Guy" - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread Pierre Sahores
@Richmond, Doctor Scott Raney works went so important for all of us, Runrev included even if Metacard did this amazing so sweet and incredible smart Creator so lazy to the end, just before Kevin purposed to Scott to push MC ahead, as we today all know, lots more higher most of us expected it w

Re: "Be This Guy" - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 09:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: This was very well written. I want a 5-legged sheep. :) On 10/13/13 6:43 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, where the boats are bobbing uselessly in the swell. Hi Richmond, and anybody interested in the recent Livecode pu

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 08:02 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Sunday, October 13, 2013, 12:30:10 AM, you wrote: Anyone can code rather like any European can speak Mandarin Chinese; with an incredible amount of effort, time and instruction. True, but I think it misses the point somewhat. I haven't seen

Re: "Be This Guy" - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
This was very well written. I want a 5-legged sheep. :) On 10/13/13 6:43 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, where the boats are bobbing uselessly in the swell. Hi Richmond, and anybody interested in the recent Livecode publicity. I know somebody who sends and receive

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Sunday, October 13, 2013, 12:30:10 AM, you wrote: > Anyone can code rather like any European can speak Mandarin Chinese; > with an incredible amount of effort, time and instruction. True, but I think it misses the point somewhat. I haven't seen the ad in question, so I can't comment on

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-13 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hugh I like your mis-quote so much I'm going to steal it as my signature (obviously attributed...) FlexibleLearning.com wrote > "Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust > upon > them." > > :) > > > Hugh Senior > FLCo -- View this message in context: http:/

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-13 Thread Mike Kerner
ick. ANYBODY but Steinbeck. I'd rather be Dickens, first. On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > Anyone can write a novel, too, by the way. That doesn't demean the > > knowledge of folks who are experts using it. > > That's a typewriter usability iss

Re: "Be This Guy" - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread Antti Ilola
2013/10/13 Francis Nugent Dixon > I I was lamenting about the demise of an indispensible > (to me !) product called HYPERCARD, when I "stumbled" across > REVOLUTION, and life began all over again. > > I agree definitely! -Antti ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: "Be This Guy" - or Publicity - Business and Turnover

2013-10-13 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, where the boats are bobbing uselessly in the swell. Hi Richmond, and anybody interested in the recent Livecode publicity. I know somebody who sends and receives a handful of mails in a "good" week (THAT is expensive !) I know somebody who has a golf bag full of expe

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-13 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
"Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them." :) Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferen

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 09:11 AM, Curry Kenworthy wrote: > 'dumb everything down to the stage where its just simply insulting' > school of thought Richmond, I've been in lurk mode temporarily but this post drew me out. From prognathous to mall-rats, heroin, and Steve Martin, it's classic. Beyond dis/ag

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 06:23 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mike Kerner wrote: > Anyone can write a novel, too, by the way. That doesn't demean the > knowledge of folks who are experts using it. That's a typewriter usability issue. Once typewriter designers care enough about end-users to improve things, we

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-13 Thread Richmond
On 10/13/2013 04:17 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: Anybody CAN learn how to program with many languages (BASIC is another one that comes to mind), but that doesn't mean you can learn to do it well. I think that is a very important distinction. We used to have this same sort of debate on the HC usene

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Curry Kenworthy
> 'dumb everything down to the stage where its just simply insulting' > school of thought Richmond, I've been in lurk mode temporarily but this post drew me out. From prognathous to mall-rats, heroin, and Steve Martin, it's classic. Beyond dis/agree; either way it's a blast. Along that line,

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: > Anyone can write a novel, too, by the way. That doesn't demean the > knowledge of folks who are experts using it. That's a typewriter usability issue. Once typewriter designers care enough about end-users to improve things, we'll all be Steinbecks. :) -- Richard Gaskin

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Mike Kerner
Anybody CAN learn how to program with many languages (BASIC is another one that comes to mind), but that doesn't mean you can learn to do it well. We used to have this same sort of debate on the HC usenet group 20+ years ago. Here's what frequently happens, though: someone new comes to the commu

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Roger Eller
Really, mine too! Although I used a HyperCard clone called "Foundation" on my Amiga 500. ~Roger On Oct 13, 2013 9:07 AM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > Roger Eller wrote: > >On Oct 13, 2013 7:01 AM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > >> > >> I can only think of all those people who didn't know they could >

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
Roger Eller wrote: >On Oct 13, 2013 7:01 AM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: >> >> I can only think of all those people who didn't know they could >program, >and who never in a million years thought they'd want to, back when >HyperCard came out. Suddenly everyone was a programmer, even the >"morons." >> >

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Roger Eller
On Oct 13, 2013 7:01 AM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > > I can only think of all those people who didn't know they could program, and who never in a million years thought they'd want to, back when HyperCard came out. Suddenly everyone was a programmer, even the "morons." > Must you be so harsh as you

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Phil Davis
I love real love stories. On 10/12/13 4:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Like me. One of the best gifts my husband ever gave me was a pocket protector as acknowledgement that I'd "arrived." ;-) -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@

RE: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> RunRev produce a fantastic product; a product that can > produce simple Powerpoint-like slideshows to incredibly > complicated stuff (my Devawriter being about 25% along that > line); so advertising Livecode like this is just doing RunRev > a disservice. I have noticed an uptick in email ma

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/12/13 4:53 PM, Vaughn Clement wrote: Now 2 weeks after I paid for the programs one of them is now offered for free. Most companies would check back a refund the fees for any user who paid within the last 30 days. Now I feel that I am not being treated equal to the people who are getting the

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/12/13 2:18 PM, Richmond wrote: I'm all in favour of more people learning how to program computers. What I am not in favour of is giving people the false impression that it does involve quite a bit of time adf effort. You mean "doesn't involve" I think. I can only think of all those peo

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi I would be more concerned that they were not trying to do ads and did not watch the cash flow. It sounds like they are doing the things they need to do to be a business. My one thing is that they treat everyone equal. For example I paid for training that was $100.00 to learn things that should

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Walt Brown
Richmond, Maybe they just hired an enthusiastic, fresh-out, naïve marketing person, for whom we should cut some slack :-) Or maybe the Scottish Valley Girls need to do SOMETHING to justify their expense to Inland Revenue... Walt On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Richmond wrote: > Why do I feel th

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Richmond
On 10/12/2013 09:56 PM, Ray wrote: I don't know Richmond - I kind of disagree with you, albeit respectfully so. You've apparently taken some time to write down your concerns here and that's to be respected. I'd just create a junk mail filter and be done with it. That will block out the 'bac

Re: "Be This Guy"

2013-10-12 Thread Ray
I don't know Richmond - I kind of disagree with you, albeit respectfully so. You've apparently taken some time to write down your concerns here and that's to be respected. I'd just create a junk mail filter and be done with it. Actually, I'd kind of like to see the masses get into scripting