On Jan 23, 2013 12:07 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 1/22/13 10:56 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 1/22/13 9:46 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
I think MPEG1 2, as well as AVI.
It can't just be MPEG1 and 2, can it?
Never mind, I see that's exactly what you meant. MPEG 1 and 2 and AVI.
That's
I think poor Jacque is in one of those situations where the requirements for
her project are self contradictory. An extreme example might be if someone
wanted me to write a game that was completely portable, and required advanced
3D graphics capabilities, but had to work without requiring the
On 1/23/13 3:31 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote:
To say it needs to be portable, play audio and video, and you cannot
require the installation of any software is perhaps a bridge to far.
Given the nature of the software though, the requirement is legitimate.
Does any other development environment
J. Landman Gay wrote
Since the client will be creating the video, my current thinking is to
create two versions, one in WMP native format and another in QT format.
The software will download the right one according to platform. That
seems the simplest way. The player object works on Windows
That might be an option. Tell them, I can do this, but if you want the best
quality, then I need to ensure that certain codecs are installed.
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
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On Jan 23, 2013, at 14:44, As_Simon si...@asato-media.com wrote:
J. Landman Gay wrote
Since
On 1/23/13 4:44 PM, As_Simon wrote:
J. Landman Gay wrote
Since the client will be creating the video, my current thinking is to
create two versions, one in WMP native format and another in QT format.
The software will download the right one according to platform. That
seems the simplest way.
I'm still not sure which video formats are supported in LiveCode on
Windows machines that don't have QuickTime. Does anyone have a list?
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HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
I think MPEG1 2, as well as AVI.
If playing externally, Microsoft has a list. I would hope that most people
have moved past Win95 to Win2k. Assuming a minimum of XP, here's what
should work without installing additional software:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899113
If you install VLC, you
On 1/22/13 9:46 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
I think MPEG1 2, as well as AVI.
If playing externally, Microsoft has a list. I would hope that most people
have moved past Win95 to Win2k. Assuming a minimum of XP, here's what
should work without installing additional software:
On 1/22/13 10:56 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 1/22/13 9:46 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
I think MPEG1 2, as well as AVI.
If playing externally, Microsoft has a list. I would hope that most
people
have moved past Win95 to Win2k. Assuming a minimum of XP, here's what
should work without installing
That list continues to support what I've argued, in that they don't list MPEG-2
as a built in codec.
For what it's worth, WMV 9 is a decent codec.
On Jan 22, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:
I think MPEG1 2, as well as AVI.
If playing externally,
Hi friends,
Am 18.01.2013 um 21:51 schrieb Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com:
Hi Stephen,
Stephen Barncard-4 wrote
VLC is also apple-scriptable.
Some months ago, Klaus Major posted
a message asking for developers interested
in a VLC dll for LiveCode.
What happened with this DLL?
Hi Klaus,
Klaus on-rev wrote
Hi friends,
What happened with this VLC DLL? Klaus?
sorry, no news so far...
Best, Klaus
Well... VLC changed it's licensing
to make possible that commercial
applications, like LiveCode, contribute
to the project...
This change was motivated to match the
Really? My mistake then I as under the impression that this was included in all
operating systems because they will need to play DVD ROM's.
Bob
On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
MPEG-2 isn't really an option. Only systems that have DVD-ROMs, and DVD-Video
playing software,
Hi Phil,
I use ffmpeg too and I found a GUI interface to it - ffmpegx, available at
http://www.ffmpegx.com/
Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote:
One tool l I have found to be almost magical in its media conversion
Righto. That's one of the commercial apps that uses it.
p
On 1/18/13 11:05 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Hi Phil,
I use ffmpeg too and I found a GUI interface to it - ffmpegx, available at
http://www.ffmpegx.com/
Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Phil
MPEG-2 isn't needed to use DVD-ROMs. It is needed to play DVD-Video. The
license for MPEG-2 is covered in the cost of the software that you buy for
playing DVDs. You may well get bundled software, and so the cost is hidden from
you. I think that each way of playing back DVD-Video will have its
Hi Stephen,
Stephen Barncard-4 wrote
VLC is also apple-scriptable.
Some months ago, Klaus Major posted
a message asking for developers interested
in a VLC dll for LiveCode.
What happened with this DLL? Klaus?
I have used VLC from the command line from LiveCode,
showing a borderless video
Hi Jacque,
J. Landman Gay wrote
I've been testing in Windows 7 without QuickTime installed to see how
video and audio files work in a player object.
[snip]
I need a video format that will play in Windows without QT. Which of the
many others should I look at?
Could you try virtualizing
On 1/18/13 2:57 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Hi Jacque,
J. Landman Gay wrote
I've been testing in Windows 7 without QuickTime installed to see how
video and audio files work in a player object.
[snip]
I need a video format that will play in Windows without QT. Which of the
many others should I
Right. But wasn't the question about being able to play audio and video cross
platform without having to make the user install anything? Also, I have played
ripped DVD content off my hard drive, and the format of the ripped video is
MPEG2, so strictly speaking, you don't *have* to play MPEG2
Yes, exactly. Anyone who doesn't have a DVD-ROM drive and bundled DVD-Video
software, or gone to the trouble of installing MPEG-2 playback by some other
means, would end up having to install something. QuickTime is probably the
easiest thing to require, because of the millions of users who have
J. Landman Gay wrote
Thanks, I'll ask my client about it. Right now I'm collecting all the
responses here so I can talk to them.
In this website, you could find Cameyo, a free app for
virtualising applications: http://www.cameyo.com/
The virtual app that I build, using StackRunner and
Hi Jacqueline
If you don't need streaming you could try MPEG-1 video files.
When compressed properly they are relatively good quality, just a bit
bigger filesize-wise compared to MPEG-4.
regards
alex
On 18/01/13 8:58 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
I've been testing in Windows 7 without
J. Landman Gay jacque@... writes:
In the Media Player app itself, all the above formats play perfectly. I
did not need to download any extra codecs, not even for .mov files.
It gets worse. You can't rely on just the file extension.
The other day I pulled down a GoToMeeting archive as a .wmv
On 1/17/13 5:34 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
J. Landman Gay jacque@... writes:
In the Media Player app itself, all the above formats play perfectly. I
did not need to download any extra codecs, not even for .mov files.
It gets worse. You can't rely on just the file extension.
The other day I
On 1/17/13 5:08 PM, Alex Shaw wrote:
Hi Jacqueline
If you don't need streaming you could try MPEG-1 video files.
I don't know if we'll need streaming yet, so I'll keep this in mind. I
didn't test MPEG-1 files yet, so we'll see. Maybe it's moot.
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Jacqueline Landman Gay |
Hush! You are not implying Microsoft would develop a proprietary codec that
only their player could use?? What self respecting corporation would even think
of such a thing???
Bob
On Jan 17, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
J. Landman Gay jacque@... writes:
In the Media Player app
Do you mean Codecs? To answer your question, yes and no. If you never use WMP,
you will probably not have a lot of codecs it supports. Even if you do, you may
not have all of them. While the audio codec would probably be installed as a
dll in Windows somewhere, and so be an OS function, some
It's been a long time since I dealt with this, but last I checked, MPEG1
and maybe MPEG2 worked cross platform.
As Mark said, file extension doesn't always correspond with the encoding
of a video file. If you have control over the format of the videos to
played, then you should have no trouble.
Jacque,
The best is always to test different outputs formats in using MPEGStreamclip
(- Windows formats), Handbrake (MacOS X / Linux formats), QT7 Pro (see export
features) and QT 10 (m4v outputs). MPEG1 and MPEG2 are mainly reserved to TV
broadband outputs, not featured as web dedicated. Sure
Thanks for all the responses. The audio/video files will be prepared by
my client and served over the internet to customers. We have control
over the format, the names, whatever is needed.
The catch is that the people who will be viewing the media can be on any
computer, often one they don't
If need be, can you use something other than LiveCode to solve the problem? A
Flash projector ought to be able to work, and doesn't rely on any system
software to be able to play H.264 video, along with high quality AAC audio.
Or, if you can require that the system has Flash Player (which most
Lowest common denominator then. For audio, use mp3. For video, mpeg2. Just
about every modern os supports those 2 out of the box.
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
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On Jan 17, 2013, at 18:38, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
Thanks for all the responses.
J.
There's one open source app that might be ripe for imbedding:
VLC
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html
cross-platform, the source is available, and if one can open a window from
the command line
This idea was inspired a little mac app called NICECAST. A beautiful mac
front end with
As an example, avi encodes mp4. Just to point out that codecs and the ways
video contents are encoded are always two distinct things.
If you can use a javascript to test the end user installed OS, you will get way
to serve the adapted video format for each different target. Not a painless
Just follow Bob on this : about audio, don't search any best way than mp3. Will
works as expected against any end-user target. I'm not so sure as Bob is about
mp2 indeed : lowest compression than mp4 and its useful H264 declinaison.
Le 18 janv. 2013 à 03:52, Robert Sneidar a écrit :
Lowest
As far as serving video, my experiments have shown that it is often better
to use a service that does it for a living, like Vimeo, than to depend on
one's own servers. $60/year buys up to 5 gigs of video a month. Far better
than youtoob.
And if one ends up using a browser for displaying video
MPEG-2 isn't really an option. Only systems that have DVD-ROMs, and DVD-Video
playing software, would be able to play MPEG-2. In the Windows world it's not
unusual for people to find illegal ways around that, and on Mac you have the
option of buying the $20 MPEG-2 playback component, but
VLC is also apple-scriptable.
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco Ca. USA
more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar
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Le 18 janv. 2013 à 04:53, stephen barncard a écrit :
Vimeo, than to depend on
one's own servers. $60/year buys up to 5 gigs of video a month.
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One tool l I have found to be almost magical in its media conversion
capabilities is ffmpeg. It's open source, cross-platform, command-line
only, but is used as the engine in a number of commercial apps.
Also, it has a serious learning curve.
But a good tool if it's what you need. We use it
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