Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-12 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
I do use google, but, the issue is return on time and investment. The entire purpose of the endeavor is as a front end to a database. Given the database layer has not been touched for years given that all the database bugs where consolidated back in version 2.16 and not touched until 2016 when

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-12 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Good lord, Dalton - you could use gmail which also provides all the other Google free goodies including online photo services If you are a programmer this should be the easiest part! sqb -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:01 AM Dalton Calford

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-12 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
Yea, unfortunately, setting up a site that I can upload to, arrange the links etc., is more hassle than it is worth. The responses I got on my other thread (about documentation on adding another native database client) tells me that I am not able to continue with Livecode. ODBC is not going to cut

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-12 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
This is an old fashioned list, which allows no attachments. Always use links. On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 09:40 Dalton Calford via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Well, it appears this list is not the best place to use for such a > discussion. > I shared some notes and a

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-12 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
> Well, it appears this list is not the best place to use for such a discussion. I shared some notes and a screen shot and voila, I get this "Your message to use-livecode awaits moderator approval" > I don't know if Richard got the message or not, nor do I know if my post got approved, but with

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-12 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 12:05 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > If it must be done in the most expensive of options, in C++ within the > engine, we can either continue to not have it while we wait for the > engine team to build it, or spend

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dalton Calford wrote: > I was about to explain using screen shots, flow diagrams etc., but, > then I thought this may not be the best place to be discussing this. > > If you think this is as good a list as any, I can proceed, but, I will > have to do so later this evening as I am about to start

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
I was about to explain using screen shots, flow diagrams etc., but, then I thought this may not be the best place to be discussing this. If you think this is as good a list as any, I can proceed, but, I will have to do so later this evening as I am about to start a MOP. best regards Dalton On

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
This is a very interesting description of a graph database application. But how does it relate to having a stack viewable within another stack? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Dalton Calford wrote: ok, In order to explain what I need the utility for, is as a front end to a highly

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
ok, In order to explain what I need the utility for, is as a front end to a highly normalized warehouse Temporal Graph database. That probably means nothing to you, but, lets assume it does for the time being. For a simple example, lets say we are dealing with addresses, 2.6 billion addresses,

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dalton Calford wrote: [lots of valuable stuff bookmarked but not quoted here only for brevity] > But, if you are still with me, I am willing to explain what I use, how > I use it, how it is used in many different applications and languages > and why. > > I can provide specifications, tests and

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
Hi Richard, I have no experience with such systems. I only work with computers, > where nothing happens until someone writes some code. :) > I understand where you are coming from, as I started out writing assembly for 8088 processors and the whole idea of writing a loop in a high level

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Hakan mentioned this but you may have missed it. You can definitely move controls around inside a group without breaking it apart or going into Edit Group mode. On the toolbar there's an icon called Select Grouped. Toggling that allows you to select the whole group (as you're doing now) or

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dalton Calford wrote: > I am not saying groups are not workable, I am just saying, that in > comparison to other 'container' style controls on multiple other > development platforms, they are not as easy to use, nor as versatile. Can you tell us more about how they differ in regard to what

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
Hi Hakan, I am not saying groups are not workable, I am just saying, that in comparison to other 'container' style controls on multiple other development platforms, they are not as easy to use, nor as versatile. In java, delphi, access, kde (the list goes on), you can do all the work you are

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode
Maybe I don’t understand your idea but I do think you have kind of  the same using a group. If you design your group or your ”panel” you still need to place your controls. If you move a group you also move the controls within that group. You can also grab individual controls in a group if you

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Dalton Calford via use-livecode
Hi Richard, Thanks for your response! So for the foreseeable future, we have groups, sharable within a stack, > and clonable anywhere, even into other stacks. Using that as a > foundation, we may be able to write a handler or two to give you a very > Viewer-like experience, if you can share more

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-11 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Richard Gaskin wrote: So for the foreseeable future, we have groups, sharable within a stack, and clonable anywhere, even into other stacks. --- BR: Jacques taught this trick, I sure others do it also, but FWIW Though "globals are bad" . I do use one global in the

Re: Panel/Form Widget

2019-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dalton Calford wrote: > In other programming languages/environments that I have used, there is > a normally a panel object. > In livecode terms, it would act like a stack that is embedded inside > another stack as a widget. > With Delphi, it is a panel (tabbed; normal or repeating) while in >